f-dallas

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12/8/2006 4:06 PM




The Phillies signed him?




flesh4fantasy

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12/8/2006 4:12 PM




the royals did. the quintessential "small-market" team. baffling...




bassiladelph

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12/11/2006 11:13 AM




Small side-note:

Seems that talks between Mats and the Red Sox are breaking down, with a deadline of Thursday to sign him or else he goes back to Japan.

The reasoning?

The Sox believe that Boras is too stubborn and is disinterested in getting a deal made, because he hasn't gotten over the flaws in the Japanese "posting" system.

Um, yeah. I'll bet another $10 million will make all that go away.




KeithByars

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12/11/2006 1:07 PM




"Seems that talks between Mats and the Red Sox are breaking down, with a deadline of Thursday to sign him or else he goes back to Japan."

That's only 1 of a few options available right




KeithByars

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12/11/2006 1:07 PM




Sorry, right now.




EagleNY

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12/11/2006 1:09 PM




I saw some junk on a Mets site that MLB could decide the Red Sox are not negotiating in good faith with Matsuzaka, and award his rights to the Mets who had the second-highest bid.

Sounds absurd, just curious if that's an option you heard.




KeithByars

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12/11/2006 1:11 PM




Yeah, Selig could rule on that. Also, Boras could buy him out of his contract and make it back right away with the new contract.




SeeZakRun

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12/11/2006 2:31 PM




So if the Phillies trade Lieber for bullpen help, who's the guy they call up in case a starter gets hurt?

Did I hear they want to make Castro a starter?

I just hope it isn't Madson. Is there someone in triple A I'm forgetting about other than Brito?




KeithByars

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12/13/2006 12:26 PM




Rumor has it that the Red Sox signed Matsuzaka




GlennGoBlue

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12/13/2006 12:32 PM




I swear it's impossible to scoop KB on baseball. I was just coming out to post the same thing. Supposedly, Matz, Boras, and the Red Sox Cru is on the way back to Boston to do the physical.




KeithByars

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12/13/2006 12:33 PM




As soon as Uncle Pat calls me, I race here




Vegas Vinny

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12/13/2006 12:37 PM




Well GGB we haven't heard the last word on this yet because Fred hasn't offered his analysis and thought provoking commentary.




bassiladelph

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12/13/2006 1:26 PM




Mats got 6 years, $52 mil according to SI.

Hmm.




f-dallas

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12/13/2006 1:48 PM




Seems like a fair price.

Considering the cost of FA pitchers, this isn't a bad total contract (including the money they ponied up at the start).

He could flop, but his actual salary wouldn't be that hard to move if things go south.




KeithByars

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12/13/2006 1:55 PM




It's not bad at all, especially considering the money they'll make off merchandise in Japan, alone.




GlennGoBlue

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12/13/2006 2:00 PM




6 years, 6,078,280,000 yen.




EagleNY

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12/13/2006 2:14 PM




I can only imagine what Boras will ask for Zito now...




GlennGoBlue

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12/13/2006 2:27 PM




Let's just hope that, whatever is,

A) The Mets pay it.

and

B) He is a bust.




EagleNY

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12/13/2006 2:31 PM




I think Zito won a Gold Glove once, so he won't be a Tiger...

I could go either way on the Mets signing him.




f-dallas

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12/13/2006 9:33 PM




I've never liked Zito and word was Boras was going to use whatever he got from the Sox (plus the buyout) as the framework for Zito (which was why he was holding him out).

If anyone gives Zito 6 years, $100 million...well...they'd have to be nuts. In this market it wouldn't shock me, though.




SeeZakRun

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12/14/2006 8:32 AM




What don't you like about Zito, f-d? Just curious.




Seth in 736

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12/14/2006 8:35 AM




He dumped Alyssa Milano.

Done.




KeithByars

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12/14/2006 8:39 AM




In his defense, that's probably b/c she was sleeping with half of MLB at the time




KeithByars

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12/14/2006 8:40 AM




Zak, I think f-d actually loves Zito. The problem is, once f-d likes a pitcher, the guy winds up on the DL. This is f-d's way of avoiding the jinx.




SeeZakRun

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12/14/2006 8:42 AM




But if he goes to the Mets...




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