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Cover it however you like, Drillbit. I'll give you the last 3 posts at best.

It's a smokescreen- F-d, make sure when these girls are sent to juvenile and put on probation after a judge lets them off you post that story too

I can't see these girls doing any time either.

Out of curiosity, what did those kids end up getting? It's honest curiosity, because I have absolutely no clue.

Ummmmm NFN but didnt they lure this girl to a house hold her there, beat her up AND then proceeded to but the beatdown on YouTube? Not that I agree or even care but there is a lot more to this story. Its not exactly apples to apples.

Ummmmm NFN but didnt they lure this girl to a house hold her there, beat her up AND then proceeded to but the beatdown on YouTube? Not that I agree or even care but there is a lot more to this story. Its not exactly apples to apples.

What are the odds we're ever going to have the exact same situation occur twice?

This was definitely different from the other case, but I think you can draw the parallels.

This girl didn't get kicked in the head repeatedly while unconscious, either. That's a little more intense that sissy girl punches to the kidney followed by conversation.

They each have their own merits and they aren't exactly identical, but I think it's interesting.

f-d, my first post was real, then I saw what you mean. Honestly

That's partially my point, Hulk. The did it to embarrass her for what she did on her myspace page. Even past that, the motivation was strictly revenge and was premeditated, and their attitudes are reflective of people who either don't care or don't believe their punishment will be that strict.

I think the law down there is trying to make a statement to attempt to curb any more of these beatings, because if you know you're going to get away with it with nothing more than a wrist slap, it encourages copycats.

Actually this girl was beat up for a little over 30 mins and is in the hospital. I also think the bravado of taping the whole thing has a lot to with it as well. Like I said I could care either way because I think they ALL need a good beating from day 1. Including the parents, nans, mom moms, grams, aunties, or whatever they want to be called.

Agree with Bass and Hulk

.....and when I say "all" they includes the Jena 6 bunch. I am all for fighting againest injustice but you gotta choose your battles.

I am all for fighting againest injustice but you gotta choose your battles.

And that's what's wrong with some people today - not every battle is an issue of race, but a case of some people who should be punished for doing bad things.

There ARE cases of racism around this country - let's not deny that. But people who do wrong shouldn't be allowed to use it as an excuse to remove personal responsibility, something that is lacking from the President on down.

Actually this girl was beat up for a little over 30 mins and is in the hospital. I also think the bravado of taping the whole thing has a lot to with it as well. Like I said I could care either way because I think they ALL need a good beating from day 1. Including the parents, nans, mom moms, grams, aunties, or whatever they want to be called.

Again, the cases are different, but the "30 minute beating" consisted of punching spurts in between yelling. It wasn't 30 minutes of beating (maybe 3 minutes total).

The girl isn't in the hospital from what I can tell.
They said she suffered a concussion and "permanent hearing loss", the latter of which might as well been called "civil litigation hearing loss".

And that's what's wrong with some people today - not every battle is an issue of race, but a case of some people who should be punished for doing bad things.

There ARE cases of racism around this country - let's not deny that. But people who do wrong shouldn't be allowed to use it as an excuse to remove personal responsibility, something that is lacking from the President on down.

I agree completely.

My whole point with this story is I think it shows that while race was a motivation in the Jena 6 saga, I don't think it was in the courts.

Moral of the story is a gang beatdown on another person (in a public school or on Youtube) is going to get you serious, adult problems.

I don't know all the facts in the Jena 6 story or even this one for that matter. I just think because of where Jena 6 happened, how the courts handled it at least from my perspective there was some bias. I dont want to rehash all the stuff because thats been done already. But I think its two totally different situations.

I'm not trying to re-hash any of it either.

In all honesty, though, how can you say you don't remember the details, but feel the courts was biased?

Like I said, I'm not trying to start all this nonsense up again, but those two thoughts don't seem to jive.

F-D,

This case with these girls and guys in FL is a situation where the courts want to set a precedent as to "nip it in the bud" so Youtube beatdowns, holding someone againest their will and being cavalier about it doesnt happen again. No racial undertones at all. Thats my point.

how can you say you don't remember the details, but feel the courts was biased?

"Attempted murder" ring a bell?

....reread my sentence please I said the "facts" not details. There is a difference.

I blame Hip-Hop, and big rims!

"Attempted murder" ring a bell?

Yeah...and I think that attack was definitely more vicious. The reason they charged with attempted murder was the kicking and stomping of the guy's head (even after he was unconscious).

Like I said, the crimes weren't exactly the same.

....reread my sentence please I said the "facts" not details. There is a difference.

I think facts and details are roughly the same thing and both critical in a criminal case.

This case with these girls and guys in FL is a situation where the courts want to set a precedent as to "nip it in the bud" so Youtube beatdowns, holding someone againest their will and being cavalier about it doesnt happen again. No racial undertones at all. Thats my point.

I don't disagree. I just think there weren't any racial undertones in the previous case, other than the spat that led up to the violence.

That case wasn't tried as a hate crime or anything and the motivating factors in either beating really don't matter in a court of law.

I think if these girls were given a slap on the wrist, it would provide a little credence to the backlash of the Jena 6 case. As is, I think it vindicates the people involved in trying that case a little bit.

On a serious note to this, I do hope these girls, and the two douche bags who stood outside, get what they deserve.

The other difference to the Jena 6, is that these girls, as far as reported, do not have any priers of assault, like some of the Jena 6 did.
And I still blame hip-hop!

Yeah...and I think that attack was definitely more vicious.

Oh I don't know- a woman with a sharp tongue talking to you while she's whooping your ass can be pretty vicious

I think if these girls were given a slap on the wrist

As a great philosopher once said,

"Book it"

Those people trying the case will be vindicated when the Jena 6 bunch go to jail for breaking the law again as it will almost assuredly happen. Trust me F-D, we are on the same side. My point is the way the Jena 6 situation was handled gave the "appearance" of bias thus allowing the Rev's to get more camera time.

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