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4/25/2008 4:26 PM
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F-d, you ever see those "Courtroom Gone Wild" vids?
Does that actually exist? I'd love to watch.
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KeithByars
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4/25/2008 4:27 PM
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Ask Camden County for access to their files
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GlennGoBlue
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4/25/2008 4:27 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/04/24/nyregion/20080424_BELL_GRAPHIC.html
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ATown Eagle
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4/25/2008 4:28 PM
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ATown Eagle
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4/25/2008 4:35 PM
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Maria Rodrigues lives near the shooting.
"Detectives found a bullet embedded in a lampshade in her living room.
that sucks.
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f-dallas
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4/25/2008 4:36 PM
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I love that GGB is so committed to not linking things that he won't even paste them into the recently added "link" field.
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All of that testimony sounds incredibly sketchy. It says when they(the responding officers) arrived the plain clothes where wearing their badges, NOWHERE does it state previous to the altercation and shooting outside they identified themselves as police to Bell and his friends. I'm no law student but some of the testimony given and lack of cross examination of some of the witnesses seems so shoddy and amateur at best. No wonder they lost the case.
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Fred_Barnett
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4/25/2008 4:48 PM
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If I took the time to address everything I saw as "peculiar" in that testimony, it'd take forever.
I'll just simply concur with Hulk
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section 371
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TheHulk_NJ
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Bad judgement maybe but a situation any of use easily could get into after a few pops following a Phils, Bird, Flyguys game. ESPECIALLY IF SECTION IS THERE.
Yes Hulk I'm guilty as charged. I'm a bad influence on my friends and family members.
I usually get thrown out of those seedy types of places and get strippers fired before any cops come and shoot the joint to pieces.
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Seth in 736
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4/25/2008 9:22 PM
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I know ive joked on here today- and i still dont think that the dead man is an innocent cherub- but for real now, this does stink.
The cops are 'more believeable" supposedly, so they can excessively load a cat full of lead and then brush it under the rug. Stellar.
The fact that there were 2 black cops is the only reason that these guys werent thrown under the bus and that they got off- and its brutal.
Sorry, 50 shots? FIFTY>?
31 by ONE COP?!?!??!? Um, axe to grind much or just tired of kids with skateboards laughin at you?
God, its harder and harder to have Cops backs these days.
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section 371
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4/26/2008 12:42 PM
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Fred
Here is the answer to your question.
My answer was off by quite a bit. Yo, click it
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Fred_Barnett
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4/27/2008 3:58 AM
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To fire that many shots without seeing a gun or the muzzle flash of return fire is FUCKING CRIMINAL.
Period.
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Fred_Barnett
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Sharpton, Bell's Fiancee Blast Verdict
By VERENA DOBNIK, AP
Posted: 2008-04-26 20:16:39
NEW YORK (April 26) - Hundreds of angry people marched through Harlem on Saturday after the Rev. Al Sharpton promised to "close this city down" to protest the acquittals of three police detectives in the 50-shot barrage that killed a groom on his wedding day and wounded two friends.
"We strategically know how to stop the city so people stand still and realize that you do not have the right to shoot down unarmed, innocent civilians," Sharpton told an overflow crowd of several hundred people at his National Action Network office in the historically black Manhattan neighborhood. "This city is going to deal with the blood of Sean Bell."
Sharpton was joined by the family of 23-year-old Sean Bell — a black man — and a friend of Bell who was wounded in the 2006 shooting outside a Queens strip club. Two of the three officers charged were also black.
The rally at Sharpton's office was followed by a 20-block march down Malcolm X Boulevard and then across 125th Street, Harlem's main business thoroughfare, where some bystanders yelled out "Kill the police!"
Fifty of the marchers carried white placards bearing big black numbers for each of the police bullets fired at Bell and his friends.
Sharpton urged people to return for a meeting this coming week "to plan the day that we will close this city down" with the kind of "massive civil disobedience" once led by Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
"They never accused Sean Bell of doing anything. Then why is he dead?" Sharpton asked, his voice roaring with anger. Authorities "have shown now that they will not hold police accountable. Well, guess what? If you won't, we will!"
"Shut it down! Shut it down!" the crowd chanted, standing up and applauding wildly.
Sharpton didn't say exactly how they would protest the acquittals of the officers who fired the 50 shots. He said Bell's supporters could demonstrate all over the city, from Wall Street to the home of Justice Arthur Cooperman, who on Friday acquitted the three detectives after a nonjury trial.
Sitting behind Sharpton as he spoke were Bell's parents, his sister and Nicole Paultre Bell, who took her fiance's name after his death.
"The justice system let me down," Paultre Bell told the crowd in a soft voice. "April 25, 2008: They killed Sean all over again. That's what it felt like to us."
It was her first public comment since she stormed out of a courtroom Friday after the NYPD detectives were cleared in Bell's killing as he left his bachelor party.
One of Bell's companions, Joseph Guzman, also spoke briefly on Saturday, saying: "We've got a long fight."
The verdict elicited gasps as well as tears of joy and sorrow. Detective Michael Oliver, who fired 31 of the shots, wept at the defense table, while Bell's mother cried in the packed courtroom. Shouts of "Murderers! Murderers!" and "KKK!" rang out outside the courthouse.
Protests followed later Friday, and police said two demonstrators were arrested near the shooting site. One was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge, the other on a charge of obstructing governmental administration, police said.
Oliver and Gescard Isnora were acquitted of charges that included manslaughter, assault and reckless endangerment. The third officer, Marc Cooper, faced lesser charges.
After the verdict, the officers gave brief statements without taking questions. "I'd like to say sorry to the Bell family for the tragedy," an emotional Cooper said.
Bell was killed outside the strip club as he was leaving his bachelor party. The officers — undercover detectives who were investigating reports of prostitution at the club — said they thought one of the men had a gun.
The slaying heightened tensions in the city and stoked long-standing allegations of racism and excessive use of force by police, even though two of the officers charged are black.
The officers complained that pretrial publicity had unfairly painted them as cold-blooded killers.
After the verdict, the U.S. attorney's office said it would look into the case and "take appropriate action if the evidence indicates a prosecutable violation of federal criminal civil rights statutes."
In addition, relatives of the victims have sued the city. The officers, who had been on paid leave, also face possible departmental charges that could result in their firing.
The case brought back painful memories of other New York police shootings, such as the 1999 killing of Amadou Diallo, an African immigrant who was gunned down in a barrage of 41 bullets by officers who mistook his wallet for a gun. The acquittal of the officers in that case led to days of protests, with hundreds arrested.
The defense in the two-month trial painted the victims as drunken thugs who the officers believed were armed and dangerous. Prosecutors sought to convince the judge that the victims had been minding their own business, and that the officers were inept, trigger-happy cowboys.
Bell's wounded companions — Guzman and Trent Benefield — both testified.
Guzman, a burly ex-convict who still has four police bullets lodged in his body, grew combative during cross-examination and said of Isnora: "This dude is shooting like he's crazy, like he's out of his mind."
None of the officers took the stand. Instead, the judge heard transcripts of the officers telling a grand jury that they believed they had good reason to use deadly force.
The officers said that when the club closed around 4 a.m., they heard Guzman say "Yo, go get my gun" — something Bell's friends denied.
Isnora claimed that after he warned the men to halt, Bell pulled away in his car, bumped him and rammed an unmarked police van. The detective also said Guzman made a sudden move as if he were reaching for a gun.
Benefield and Guzman testified that there were no orders from the police.
No weapon was found in Bell's blood-splattered, bullet-riddled car.
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GlennGoBlue
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Further inciting the African American community against the Police is certainly a brilliant strategy.
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Fred_Barnett
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4/27/2008 2:57 PM
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this will make you think twice about the jena 6.
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Seth in 736
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4/27/2008 8:09 PM
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EG- NTF.
Im lettin the whole clip play, as you gotta take gettin rolled like a man.
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eaglegurl
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4/27/2008 8:32 PM
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yes!!
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Fred_Barnett
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section 371
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I Hate Shaun Young
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5/7/2008 8:37 PM
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Further inciting the African American community against the Police is certainly a brilliant strategy.
As is halting the already crawling commuter traffic by blocking the Holland Tunnel and the Brooklyn Bridge to get your point across.
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