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IggleMovedSouth
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10/25/2007 10:23 AM
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not with your cat
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GlennGoBlue
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10/25/2007 10:24 AM
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Dogs are mindless simps that do whatever you tell them too.
Not unlike the German population in the 30's and 40's.
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GlennGoBlue
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10/25/2007 10:26 AM
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No, IMS, apparently you misunderstood. I am OUT for hunting. As in:
"No interest".
Dogs are a pain in the ass. That little bastard would not go out last night because it was raining. Not that that kept him from going to the door 18 times just to make sure it, indeed, was still raining.
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IggleMovedSouth
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10/25/2007 10:28 AM
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"NAIROBI, Kenya - A stray dog saved the life of a newborn baby after finding the abandoned infant in a forest and apparently carrying it across a busy road and through some barbed wire to her litter of puppies, witnesses said.
The stray dog found the infant, clad in tattered clothing, in a poor neighborhood near the Ngong Forests in the capital of Nairobi, Stephen Thoya told the independent Daily Nation newspaper.
The dog apparently found the baby Friday in the plastic bag in which the infant had been abandoned, said Aggrey Mwalimu, owner of the shed where the animal was guarding its puppies. The seven-pound, four-ounce infant was taken to the hospital for treatment on Saturday."
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GlennGoBlue
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10/25/2007 10:28 AM
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I take it that you boys also need your wives to tell you everyday that she loves you? Just for reassurance?
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GlennGoBlue
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10/25/2007 10:29 AM
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Since that happened in Kenya, that is Strike One against Dogs.
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 10:30 AM
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Let me say this, I don't have a problem with Cats other than the cat piss smell. I like both cats and dogs, but just consider myself more of a dog person.
Cat Pluses
- A lot less work...especially compared to the puppy years.
- Cleaner.
- Easier with parties, vacation, etc. because they are low maintenance and tend to either hide under a bed or simply be around, but never really in the way.
Cat Minuses
- Litter box is disgusting and I'd rather have a pile of shit in my yard that inside my house.
- Cat piss is the worst smell on the planet. If a cat pisses anywhere but the litter box one time, your house smells slightly of cat piss forever unless you pull up the carpet/padding seal the subfloor, and replace everything. If they piss on hardwood, the smell sometimes requires the wood to be re-sealed. They also tend to re-piss in the same spot once they've broken their golden rule.
- They serve no real purpose other than hunting mice and most people don't have a mouse problem and declaw their cats anyway.
- The hairballs...gross.
Dog Minuses
- Pain in the ass sometimes. They need to be taken outside, they need some exorcise, training, etc. They need to be taken out a few times per day (mine goes out 4 or 5 times per day).
- Typically more expensive at the vet, to feed, etc.
- Greater liability.
- Makes travel and vacations more difficult.
- The runs or vomiting sometimes happen and those can be tough stains.
Dog Pluses
- More useful. I know when someone is coming to the door or when a car parks across the street late at night. Different breeds serve different purposes, though. Dogs can be better than any security system. They can lead the blind. They kind find bodies in an emergency or disaster situation. They can find missing children by scent, track people, or sniff for bombs/drugs. They've been sued in security, police work, on farms, ranches, and in the military for centuries. Some breeds are also great for hunting, if you're into that. My uncle has a big farm and they buy dogs that are bred/trained to kill deer out in the fields.
- In my home, my dog is a better security system than Brinks. I currently have a sometimes-pain-in-the-ass 3 year old Rott/Pit mutt. She's about 70 pounds and while she probably wouldn't make a fantastic guard dog in practice, nobody is coming in my house when I'm not there or when my wife is home alone. I feel better when I'm gone for the weekend and my wife is there by herself...honestly. I had a big american bulldog before. Same deal, but that dog would have killed the retriever strangler the moment she saw him and probably would have killed the retriever for considering saying hello to him.
- Dogs are also the same companions cats can be.
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IggleMovedSouth
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10/25/2007 10:30 AM
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I think you maybe confusing ankle snippers with the term dog, and that would be incorrect.
Anything under 20 pounds is a rat with fur, not a dog!
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GlennGoBlue
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10/25/2007 10:46 AM
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Can we please eliminate any Plus/Minus on dogs anything that your f'ing dog does not do currently. Yes, they can fing bodies, smell drugs (eaglefanok will nick them for this), lead the blind, but cows and chickens feed most of the planet, are they best pet?
As for the security aspect, fine. I grew up with 3 collies and currently have a beagle. All great dogs. But their hit rate of barking at things that are stupid and inconsequential (i.e., dog walking outside, raccoon running through the yard from tree to tree, cat walking outside during the night, praying Mantis making a bit too much noise devouring it's prey) to things that MIGHT count is about infinity times 3 to ZERO.
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 11:06 AM
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The point is if you get a dog that meets your particular needs, they are useful.
My uncle has that farm and the dogs he buys kill deer and save him tens of thousands in crop damage every year.
My brother has a lab and he takes it hunting.
I have a friend whose parents have been training seeing eye dogs for decades and I've seen them change people's lives.
It sounds like your beagles is a little useless. Sorry to hear that.
I'm just saying I can site several specific purposes for a dog revolving around myself and immediate family.
Cats scratch a post and pee in a box. Nothing wrong with it, but not exactly useful.
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Fred_Barnett
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10/25/2007 11:08 AM
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GlennGoBlue
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10/25/2007 11:09 AM
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Right, the discussion is about pets.
Your dog is probably equally useless.
My dog will fetch and retrieve till the cows come home. He will also lay on the sofa or bed with me. Just like a cat.
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 11:21 AM
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I told you the use of my dog...mostly illusion of protection. I told you about several pets in my immediate family that serve legitimate purposes.
I'm not sure what you're looking for here?
At worst, dogs are as useless as cats with more maintenance. At best, they are significantly more useless in every way imaginable.
That's a fairly accurate assessment, right?
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 11:22 AM
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Should read: "...at best, they are significantly more USEFUL"
My bad.
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GlennGoBlue
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10/25/2007 11:55 AM
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Sounds to me like you boys need your dogs to reassure you sense of manhood. Not unlike the Baggy Jean and T-shirt wearin', Rotty or Pit carryin', urban crowd.
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Fred_Barnett
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10/25/2007 12:04 PM
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Dogs are fun.
Cats are not.
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 12:05 PM
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Sounds to me like you boys need your dogs to reassure you sense of manhood. Not unlike the Baggy Jean and T-shirt wearin', Rotty or Pit carryin', urban crowd.
NTFF!
I seriously haven't ever met a man so passionate about cats.
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TheHulk_NJ
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10/25/2007 12:11 PM
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.....that wasn't gay.
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Fred_Barnett
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10/25/2007 12:13 PM
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"Sounds to me like you boys need your dogs to reassure you sense of manhood."
What is 'Something a homo might say'?
Alex Trebec: "Correct!"
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 12:24 PM
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NotoriousEAG
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10/25/2007 12:25 PM
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Seriously Glenn.
It's bizarre.
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NotoriousEAG
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10/25/2007 12:27 PM
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GlennGoBlue
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I am not so passionate about cats as I am scornful of the arguments put forth by those who claim to hate them, and only like dogs. I think that most of the time, it IS guys associating their manhood with the dog at the end of the leash. Again, I DO like dogs also. And I don't like ALL cats, I am out for the poofy, smash-face kind. I prefer short-hair, grey, black or tabby, big, hunting males (don't like any female pets, actually, not sure if that makes me Pet-gay or not). I actually envision them at the Tigers they resemble, kicking the living shit out of Seth's Akita, f-d's Rotty Mutt, F_B's Pit Bull, and a Tosa du jour thrown in, all at the same time.
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 12:32 PM
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LOVE Inspector Gadget.
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f-dallas
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10/25/2007 12:35 PM
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GGB, I've said several times I don't hate cats. I've had cats...don't hate them at all.
I just think they don't serve any purpose other than companionship and I personally think Dogs are better companions that can also serve a legit purpose.
That's all I'm saying. Cats are fine, they are definitely easier, but I just like Dogs more.
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