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Fred_Barnett
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11/16/2007 8:03 AM
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Is there anyone out there that thinks that he won't be convicted? I hear they're saying it's a slam dunk if the Feds take you to task. And is there anyone that isn't happy for Hammerin' Hank?
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 8:13 AM
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I'm torn because I hate Bonds and would like to watch him burn.
HOWEVER, everybody was doing it and I no longer understand how they can single him out.
I also have a Bonds autographed Pirates hat and I'm not sure which way it's more valuable.
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munchdaddy
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11/16/2007 8:16 AM
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Yeah I heard on the radio that federal indictments have something like a 95% conviction rate.
I hope he gets a maximum sentence. Not because of the roids, but because he is an A-hole.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:16 AM
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Not everyone lied to a grand jury, though, which is what they're going after
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munchdaddy
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11/16/2007 8:19 AM
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Bonds should get the chair and it should be nationally televised in HD.
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 8:30 AM
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Not everyone lied to a grand jury, though, which is what they're going after
Yeah...but it's a witch hunt.
What did he lie about? I can't even keep track anymore.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:34 AM
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I don't consider this part a witch hunt, b/c he was the only one that lied to the grand jury, and that's serious business. Giambi admitted to using roid's, and several other players, whose names weren't released. This happened about 2 years ago probably. They had to get enough evidence to prove he lied to them.
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SeeZakRun
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11/16/2007 8:40 AM
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If Victor Conte only got a year for creating and distributing illegal steroids, in fairness, Bonds should get about an hour in jail and be done with it.
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 8:41 AM
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"Bonds is charged with knowingly and wilfully making false material statements, regarding his use of anabolic steroids and other performance-enhancing substances while under oath," the state Justice Department said.
That's worth the millions they've spent investigating and 30 years in prison?
That's what I'm saying...with the problems in this country, they are being more than a little punitive with a guy who "tainted America's pastime", IMO.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:43 AM
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Well you can make that case for about 99% of the cases they go after. I think a witch hunt entails going after someone unfairly. They're going after a guy that is guilty.
I don't know what you propose they do, drop the case b/c there are bigger problems? People will just start lying to grand juries then, and know they can get off b/c the government has bigger fish to fry.
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GlennGoBlue
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11/16/2007 8:43 AM
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I think the Feds and Prosecutors in general are just getting a little fed up with the notion that people can just lie whenever they are confronted with something, even if they are before a Grand Jury. And maybe they wanna make an example of someone on a National Stage.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:44 AM
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He had the chance when first brought up on charges to admit it and move on. Instead, he lied and kept an investigation open longer, which wasted money.
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GlennGoBlue
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11/16/2007 8:46 AM
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Plus, he's a succesful black athlete, we know that whenever possible, we, in our role as The Man, need to do our best to bring them down.
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 8:49 AM
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KB is in favor of a life sentence if you lie to your wife about getting a handjob from Destiny at The Grandview.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:50 AM
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That's reason 1A right there.
BTW, they had most of the evidence against him through the Conte investigation. I bet they wanted to nail down a couple strong witnesses. I wouldn't be surprised if Conte himself is a witness here. So, I doubt they spent additional millions doing this. The evidence they had was pretty strong.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:51 AM
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Hey, his lawyers told him the trouble he'd get in if he lied to the grand jury. He put his massive ego ahead of that. I have no sympathy for that at all.
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 8:51 AM
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The evidence they had was pretty strong.
Not as strong as Bonds...they can't build a cage capable of holding him.
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 8:52 AM
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Hey, his lawyers told him the trouble he'd get in if he lied to the grand jury. He put his massive ego ahead of that. I have no sympathy for that at all.
I don't think it was his ego...I think he was just trying to protect his legacy.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:53 AM
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You should read "Game of Shadows". His ego was out of control at this point. His legacy was already tainted by now, b/c all the Conte stuff was coming out. He was just a friggin egomaniac asshole during this.
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GlennGoBlue
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11/16/2007 8:55 AM
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I was discussing this with a friend last night. If they could get ironclad evidence on Mac, Sosa, and Bonds they should reset the 1-year record to 61. It's funny that nobody, NOBODY thought of it at the time, all we heard about was the "creatine" and "anhydro" in Mac's locker. Everybody blamed it on the diluted pitching staffs due to expansion and smaller ballparks.
Kinda funny, in retrospect.
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KeithByars
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11/16/2007 8:57 AM
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Sosa was almost as big an asshole, and hated by his teammates just as much.
The whole thing is retarded. Baseball is retarded. I picked the worst sport to become OCD with.
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 9:07 AM
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I don't care if Bonds goes down. I just find the whole thing comical at this point.
If you take a few steps back, you can see that this is all so silly and funny.
I almost expect the federal prosecutor to put Bonds on the stand and emotionally cry out:
"You were my hero. You were a God to me. You've ruined it...you've ruined my faith in heroes!" before storming into his bedroom and slamming the door.
HE'S A FUCKING BASEBALL PLAYER NOT PABLO ESCOBAR.
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f-dallas
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11/16/2007 9:09 AM
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Again, Bonds is a cocksucker, so I don't care. The whole case to me just holds no more real merit that the ongoing custody battle between K-fed and Mrs. Pimp Daddy.
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Johnson
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11/16/2007 9:15 AM
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"Baseball is retarded."
Hear, hear.
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munchdaddy
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11/16/2007 9:18 AM
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"Baseball is retarded."
Have you seen my baseball?
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