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i think you need to re-read. I was agreeing this would be good for bass's kid. I don't see where the sarcasm was. I don't think it would be good for ADHD, though. I also don't think meds should be used for it. I don't know how you got that. I have never been on meds for mine. I think they should only be used in the most extreme circumstances

When I was younger my mother got me into martial arts. People still find it amazing that a 275 pound guy can do an almost full split. She thinks the karate will help him focus and give him that outlet.

It's fun for him at the Y b/c they have a kids yoga program.

The good thing is that he's slept through the night since he was a baby (and Pico Bass does the same thing). So I don't think he has limitless energy. It does get kind of hard keeping up with him at times, though (but that's like any kid).

The one brochure stated that taking ADHD meds doesn't make you more susceptible to drug abuse (which I highly doubt). Being dependent on the drugs themselves isn't a good thing.

Sorry, KB.

You did not argue for, but against meds.

However I don't see how a therapist is going to help a kid deal with problems concentrating.

Of course I have no experience with therapy with children, so I may be totally wrong.

Bass-

my thinking was that if he likes it and it works, bingo. If it doesn't and the problem still continues, it was a painless attempt at a solution and you're not spending an arm and a leg and in the process maybe stepping down a slippery slope as far as the "meds issue" goes. By all means, if you think therapy is the right way to go, then go that route. My point was that you said he loves yoga. Why do you think that is?

fred, read again. I wasn't saying the therapist will help with that. I was saying if bass is worried the kid might have problems, and doesn't want the kid to be automatically given drugs, a therapist is the way I'd get him checked out.

But like Jules said, with his grades and being on honor roll, this isn't really an ADHD thing, which is why i think martial arts, or any sports, would be good for him

To be honest, I'm not completely sure, Fred. He enjoys being something else, the breathing, and maybe the individualized attention (a class of maybe 3 kinds, including him, vs. a classroom of about 25 kids, not including him, during school). He does require constant approval (but that's like any other kid, and it could be part of the reason why he acts the way he does).

I am looking into the karate aspect, as it did help me when I was younger.

Bass- I know this sounds silly, but bear with me.


Would your son be overly impressed if he saw you break a board with your hands, or if you talked him through a karate exhibition? Or do you think he'd likely be blase blase about it?

The reason I ask is because I've rarely met a kid who was hyper who didn't get into martial arts movies- thereby setting up the inevitable link to initial study- along with the fact that you said he enjoys a physical stretching activity in the first place

I think I phrased that wrong- what I meant to say was that boys are naturally inclined to express themselves physically, which is why I'd be inclined to give the martial arts angle a try, especially given that he enjoys yoga

We never did the 'board breaking' thing, but he does really like 'The Last Dragon'. I think there is a connection there - just have to make sure he knows he can't be karate-chopping his sister.

just have to make sure he knows he can't be karate-chopping his sister.

Which is why you must play the role of "Ultimate Sensai"- you brought him into this world, and you can take him out as well

fred you may have ADHD

I honestly do think sports, but specifically the TYPE of sports I was involved in really DID help me remain 'settled' and not feeling pent up or anxious at all-
I would assume Karate or whatever would fit the bill to an extent- but the Wrestling, Football, Lacrosse, Rugby - these types of sports always left me feeling very exhausted and spent, a good kinda drained and sore. No energy left.

I knew early on that playin left (out) Field picking Dandylions was NOT for young 736.

That is to say -I think that sapping a high energy kid of the energy to BE disruptive or whatever, i dunno,

I think it really helped me to have that outlet for, I dont know what to say here cos i do not think little kids can be 'aggressive' types or 'violent' but im certainly no expert- I'll just call it a certain type of energy that, when it was met with an acceptable outlet I was generally OK. Hows that?

Bass- I cant believe Im saying this but maybe you really should listen to Grand Master Farakhan here and enlist young Bass in Martial Arts, provided they allow for the type of release I am suggesting may help.

JULES!?

Grand Master Farakhan


Really.


A craptacluar slam when a young child's stake lies in the balance.


Let's save the pettiness for less serious discussions.

Wait, WHAT?
You're really a jackass man.

A) I was saying that I agreed with you maybe, based on what little i know of martial arts

B) it was not a slam, hell, Id think youd take that as the highest form of flattery.

Ugh.

Are you seriously saying that "Grand Master Farakhan" was an attempt at flattery, and you are expecting me to believe that?

I think Bass deserves a little better from you, when I've done nothing but be serious and give my honest opinion

take it to the parking lot

Anyway, bass's biggest fear appears to be that the boy's birth mother has mental problems, and he is worried that this could be signs of it showing up in him. That's why I brought up the therapist. They'll be able to investigate anything, and won't be prescribing drugs right away. You can take him as he gets older, b/c like Jules said, some mental illness isn't apparent until later.

So yeah, since it doesn't look like he has ADHD, martial arts should help with his extra energy. But since you're worried about other things, taking him someone who isn't allowed to prescribe drugs might be a good way to do it.

FB- it wasnt a true attempt at anything, other than perhaps a reference to you given your rep here. It wasnt seriously intended as flattery, sincere humor or a slam.
and it SURE as hell wasnt supposed to draw even a response, let alone three as you make things "AAF" (All about Fred).

I would recommend a course in the art of sarcasm, and some online course maybe in wit.

Exactly KB.

JEEZ!

The extra energy has to find an acceptable means of release that is 1 thing I feel confident in saying, with no expertise in the area overall otherwise- Meds / ADHD / Mental health issues as it pertains to offspring etc.

and it SURE as hell wasnt supposed to draw even a response


Yeah, I guess I should just be a good little Negro and take it.

Talk about predictable.

I hate Farakhan, so no- I'm not gonna let that slide. If you want to discuss your crassness any further, KB is right- we can take it to the Lot. Otherwise, can we keep the insults to where it's appropriate? Thx.


As far as the subject of "mental problems" goes- I'd always ascribed that to someone whose mental capacity was fully realized, not to that of a young child. Now it'd be different if they were hearing voices or such, but maybe I'm misinterpreting what Bass has said

No there are plenty of things that show up in younger people. But some conditions aren't evident until later

I would agree KB, like depression for example?

Whats the dif. between Adult ADD and the 'normal' ADD- or is it that its just now being diagnosed in adults who were otherwise NOT diagnosed as kids for whatever reason?

i think it also has to do with different treatments for kids as opposed to adults.

if we're talking adhd and add, i think it's b/c "hyperactive" is in the one and not necessarily in the other

Ok, yeah, I get that.

I just figured maybe that they were now treating adults who slipped thru the cracks?

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