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NotoriousEAG
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6/12/2008 2:18 PM
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Or we could just cut ties to Israel and be done with it entirely.
But that would be too simple
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 2:18 PM
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"salling" = calling
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NotoriousEAG
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6/12/2008 2:19 PM
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NCSaintsFan = AE
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NotoriousEAG
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6/12/2008 2:19 PM
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NCSaintsFan = AE
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flesh4fantasy
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6/12/2008 2:25 PM
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NotoriousEAG = troll getting less interesting by the day
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Dino727
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6/12/2008 2:29 PM
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NCSAINTS, many of these people have been held WITHOUT CHARGES for over 6 years. You are 100% sure they are all guilty of whatever they haven't been charged with?
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NotoriousEAG
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6/12/2008 2:36 PM
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Flesh, you are a baby. All you do is cry
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 2:41 PM
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NCSAINTS, many of these people have been held WITHOUT CHARGES for over 6 years. You are 100% sure they are all guilty of whatever they haven't been charged with?
That's not what I'm trying to say. I said some were released after they were reviewed. I used the term "crimes" and maybe I shouldn't. I'm not a lawyer and not an expert on GitMo.
Dino,
I guess what would be helpful is a review of how a detainee is processed/held. Might as well have the same sheet of music.
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Dino727
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6/12/2008 2:43 PM
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I'm no expert either, but the whole thing smacks of George W Bush saying "Trust us."
Well, I don't.
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flesh4fantasy
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6/12/2008 2:49 PM
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neag, all you do is post the same inflamtory, baseless crap, day after day, year after year, simply to get a reaction.
its tiresome.
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ATown Eagle
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6/12/2008 2:49 PM
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"That's not what I'm trying to say. I said some were released after they were reviewed. I used the term "crimes" and maybe I shouldn't. I'm not a lawyer and not an expert on GitMo."
No! But the Supreme Court IS! Literally the greatest legal minds of our generation pored over the minutiae of this issue, and have found against the legality of GitMo THREE TIMES, but you are certain they are incorrect?
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 2:59 PM
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Dino,
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Aug2007/OMC%20Fact%20Sheet%20Aug%2007.pdf
That's a pretty good summation.
ATown,
Ask a legal scholar is Roe V Wade was a good ruling. They may agree with the outcome and think it's terrible law.
This is one of those times when we will look back and say, "What were they thinking?"
You think the SCOTUS is perfect in every ruling?
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 3:04 PM
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Dino,
That's just for the ones formally charged.
Here's the review process for everyone:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Combatant_Tribunals.html
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ATown Eagle
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6/12/2008 3:05 PM
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I'll choose to put more stock in their findings than yours, and we can agree to disagree.
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Dino727
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6/12/2008 3:13 PM
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NC, that link talks about what happens at the tribunals. The fact of the matter is that the majority have not only not had a tribunal - they haven't even been charged with anything.
SCOTUS got this right.
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Dino727
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6/12/2008 3:16 PM
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posted before I saw your second link but I don't see anything there that would change my mind.
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 3:22 PM
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Fair enough. I'm not saying to lock them in a dark cell for eternity. Not even arguing against increased rights.
I just think giving foreigners on foreign soil access to US courts and US rights is a dangerous precedent and not one easily reversed.
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Dino727
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6/12/2008 3:30 PM
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Calling a US Naval base "foreign soil" is a bit of a stretch.
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 3:34 PM
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Calling a US Naval base "foreign soil" is a bit of a stretch.
How? I could see US Embassies, but our bases are all over the world. Calling foreign land under our feet "American land/domain" seems more of a stretch.
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Dino727
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6/12/2008 3:36 PM
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Gitmo is in Cuba - does Cuba have ANY jurisdiction over it?
Of course it is US soil.
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Dino727
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6/12/2008 3:41 PM
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"The defendants had argued that, despite the fact that Guantanamo Bay is in Cuba, the US exercises total control and the principles of US law should apply there. The court accepted this."
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f-dallas
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6/12/2008 3:59 PM
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"The terrorists had terrored that, despite the fact that Guantanamo Bay is in Cuba, the Infidels exercise total control and the Zionist agenda of American swine law should apply there. The pussies on Capital Hill accepted this."
There...fixed it.
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SeeZakRun
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6/12/2008 4:00 PM
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NTVFF.
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 4:02 PM
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So, do all POWs and future POWs now have access to US courts? Or can you conceive of a way to say they only have the Geneva rights, but the terrorists at GitMo have US rights?
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NCSaintsFan
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6/12/2008 4:03 PM
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Considering, of course, that POW camps would be on foreign soil, but under the tentative control of US forces?
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