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Dino727
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6/20/2008 4:39 PM
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Don't feed the trolls.
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NCSaintsFan
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6/20/2008 7:43 PM
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Since when is keeping your word, "feminine?" We live in different worlds, f-d. In mine, it's expected for a man to keep his word. We also don't think "Yes" includes "Only on certain conditions."
Let's walk down your lane, though. Had someone here said Obama lacked "honor" you would say, "Can you show me the units of 'honor' so I can measure them?" And you would mock them for antiquated phrases.
Instead, people have specific instances, supported by facts, that can't be refuted by the uninitiated. You dissemble and try to obscure the issue.
So, fine. I'll say it.
Obama lacks honor. He has no concpet of it.
He breaks his word. He mocks those who cherish it and the symbols used to represent it. Won't wear "fake patriotism" flag pins . . . until now when he needs to put on a patriotic display. He mocks good, hard-working people of Pennsylvania by saying that they "cling" to G-d and guns when government fails, ignoring the facts that G-d and means of defense pre-dated all forms of government.
When it came time to call the young to serve their communities (commencement speech this year), he conveniently ignores service in our nation's military.
He derides their service by declaring them failures (the Surge) before it started and refusing to see their work . . . until it becomes politically neccessary.
He refuses to meet with the Commander of our foreces, despite several opportunities when he visited DC, but openly courts meetings with the men who actively try to plan the deaths of our troops (Ahmanijad, Assad).
When confronted with honest criticism about his spiritual mentor, Wright, he decided to humiliate his grandmother by saying a single instance of fear is representative ("typical white person"). The woman who helped raise him and make him a success was a convenient political tool to cover his relationship with Wright.
When his words fail to meet his written statements (the few he has - interesting lack of paper trail for such a smart guy), he blames his staff and never accepts responisbility.
The financial dealings with Rezko would've made any person with an ounce of scruples uneasy. Real estate far below market value? No need to ask too many questions!
He had a long relationship, perhaps not deep, with an unrepentant terrorist, Ayers.
September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."
Obama was a director of the Woods Fund Board and served with Ayers. Did he ask an unrepentant terrorist to resign? Did he leave in protest? Heck, no.
He sought and succeeded in disenfranchising voters in his own district before an election. Why? Because the names were printed and not written? What "honor" is there in destorying the right to be represented because voters couldn't or didn't write in cursive?
His actions in the Illinois legislature could've been defining, redemptive moments. Intead, he opted to be "present." Why take controversial stands when lobbyists are at your door?
"Honor"
Obama hasn't the first clue about it. He will humiliate close relatives and staff. He will break bread with anyone who can advance his career - but refuses to meet with the man leading his nation's forces in the most important foreign policy arena he will face as president. He mocks Americans for their "fake patriotism," but dons the flag pin (and even the US/Israeli flag pin at AIPAC) and covers his heart only when it politically suits his campaign. He calls the efforts of out troops "failure" but can't bother to schedule a trip to see for himself until he's boxed in and forced to do so.
"Nobody can acquire honor by doing what is wrong"
Indeed.
So, f-d, there is the argument centering on "Honor" and Obama.
Now is when you say,"Look at what a woman NCSaintsFan is" and do everything other than acknowledge that Obama is a hollow shell.
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Fred_Barnett
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6/20/2008 10:04 PM
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Man, there's a lot of crying going on in here
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f-dallas
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6/21/2008 10:26 AM
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Somebody call a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.
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Fred_Barnett
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6/21/2008 4:52 PM
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Forget 'em
"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection
with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am
not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of
Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their
balance, or joining in the confederacy of Kings to war against
the principles of liberty." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry,
1799.
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flesh4fantasy
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6/21/2008 6:12 PM
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fred, at the risk of incurring your ire again, this is relevant to the thread how? i'm pretty sure obama and mccain aren't going to "forget em" (implying, i guess, that the US should "forget" israel.)
and what did isreal do wrong here in the first place?
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Fred_Barnett
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6/21/2008 7:48 PM
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If you know me flesh, you know one of my campaign issues is stop spending the money overseas and instead reinvesting in "Americans"
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BrotherIggle
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6/21/2008 8:50 PM
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Fred,
If you are 40 years or older you know that aint gonna happen.. Democrat or Republican.. The history is there.
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BMA
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6/21/2008 10:15 PM
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Obamination's new seal is a rip off of the Presidential seal and is in violation of the U.S. Code but I'm sure he won't get 6 months in jail.
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fågelpojke
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6/22/2008 12:35 AM
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Vad?
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NotoriousEAG
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6/22/2008 1:21 AM
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I saw the seal BMA
Repulsive.
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Fred_Barnett
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6/22/2008 4:50 AM
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If you are 40 years or older
I'm not
you know that aint gonna happen.. Democrat or Republican..
I don't know that. Obama is threatening to do this, in fact I believe he's serious about redirecting our misspent funds back where they should have been going in the first place- Americans first, last and always...
The history is there.
History is being made as we speak. Don't sleep or you might miss it.
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fågelpojke
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6/22/2008 7:21 AM
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Fred_Barnett
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6/22/2008 8:51 AM
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While I agree with your sentiment fagel, I believe that you should be banned for a week in any case, for posting such an offensive, vile, repugnant picture such as that.
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Fred_Barnett
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6/22/2008 9:00 AM
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fågelpojke
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6/22/2008 2:40 PM
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In this day & age, how much of a racist do you have to be to be completely open? So 30% of responders to that poll said "F it! I ain't votin' for nobody that's different from me and I don't care who knows how closed minded I am". I mean, sheesh. I watch the occasional dvd of albino/midget porn, but I don't exactly put that out for decent folks to know.
The mind boggles.
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Fred_Barnett
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6/22/2008 4:16 PM
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That's just it, fagel.
You know 30% is only the tip o' the berg
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Fred_Barnett
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6/22/2008 4:25 PM
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And that's why I'm getting my passport for Liberia ready...
The sky is falling
This country is doomed
Gas is $11 a gallon in my neighborhood
I got robbed three times last week, shot once...by the cops
I can't afford to buy a gallon of milk- I buy soy milk it's cheaper
I buy tomatoes of every kind, hoping to catch the salmonella
The "gub'mint" is hounding me for a $15 parking ticket, but they still haven't caught Bin Laden
The sky is falling
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Dino727
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6/22/2008 11:06 PM
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WOW. I formally acknowledge that I have been drinking.
NC, I guess you deserve credit for posting after 5 on a Friday so no one could react quickly...
Your post is, frankly, pathetic. I mean, do I jjustify your rant by acknowledging your anti Ayers stuff? I mean, Obama was like 5 when the bombs were planted, so he must have been involved.
Let's go another direction:
If Obama is elected, will you be scared for your country?
If McCain is elected, will you be scared for your country?
For me, the answer to both is no.
If your answer is different. please explain. Otherwise, kindly STFU.
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Fred_Barnett
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6/23/2008 5:30 AM
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I am wondering if NCSF is really as gullible as this and believes all these fabricated "truths" that he is parroting, or is he just doing a bang-up job of playing devil's advocate. If the latter is the case- well then sir, I salute you. I, myself have been known to throw nonsense out there for the sake of argument as well!
But if you seriously believe all that then I cannot help you other than to pat you shoulder and ease your pain with a "there there now, take a deep breath"
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Fred_Barnett
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6/23/2008 5:35 AM
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Come to think of it- if I didn't know any better, I'd get the impression that NCSF was very bitter and clingy
Just messin' with you man!
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NotoriousEAG
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6/23/2008 12:20 PM
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"Clinging to their guns" - B.O.
The right of self-protection is older than this country.
You're damn right we will be "clinging" to that right, especially if we ride the subway or listen to an Ipod.
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f-dallas
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6/24/2008 1:27 PM
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B. Hussein O. (1/2 Muslim, 1/2 infidel) finally gets called to the carpet for attacking religion:
Yo, click it
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GlennGoBlue
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6/24/2008 1:45 PM
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And Dobson gets called an Ultra Right Wing Radical by ___________ in 5....4.....3.....
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Dino727
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6/24/2008 2:25 PM
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Come on, GGB! Everyone knows that James Dobson is one of our most moderate religious voices!
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