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6/24/2008 2:49 PM
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After some backlash, the B. Hussein campaign will no longer be using the arrogant Presidential like seal.
This clown can't even use sound judgment when dealing with stage props.
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6/24/2008 2:51 PM
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Man, Dobson, are you sitting out the election or not?
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6/24/2008 3:09 PM
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This clown can't even use sound judgment when dealing with stage props.
Yeah...he probably figured this entire country didn't have sand in their pussies. He was wrong.
"His stage prop is an abomination!!!!! Whaaaaaa!"
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6/24/2008 3:11 PM
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Actually, it's disgraceful and a violation of the United States Code.
The new stop crying retorts when criticizing Barry are cute, however.
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6/24/2008 3:27 PM
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It's disgraceful!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAA!
Such sensitive little pussies...no wonder China is taking over the world.
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f-dallas
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6/24/2008 3:34 PM
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In all seriousness, the pussies are annoying me.
If you want to be afraid of Obama, be afraid of his bullshit policies like continuing to subsidize ethenol or standing too steadfast on drilling for oil.
I can't little bitches bitching about bitch stuff while distraction politics keep you retarded and our country down.
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6/24/2008 3:46 PM
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After some backlash, the B. Hussein campaign will no longer be using the arrogant Presidential like seal.
Straight off the RNC talking points memo.
Way to think for yourself.
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6/24/2008 3:48 PM
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Did you know that government mandates will push the ethanol production from around 25% to up to around 50% next year? That ethanol thing is screwed 8 ways to Sunday either way.
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6/24/2008 3:52 PM
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fd, back to the candidate's oil positions.
That is McCain's only chance to win, in my opinion. He needs to hammer Barry on that because that's going to be the #1 issue. It's the only issue that will get people who are apathetic to politics to pay any attention since everyone is getting rammed at the gas station.
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f-dallas
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6/24/2008 3:53 PM
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It needs to be shut down immediately...it's a disaster for everyone but the people growing it.
"Hate fuck Ethenol in the face".
This is the new f-dallas "straight talk express". I just call everyone pussies when they are being whiny pussies and wish sexual assault against plant matter/fuel.
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f-dallas
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6/24/2008 3:57 PM
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That is McCain's only chance to win, in my opinion. He needs to hammer Barry on that because that's going to be the #1 issue. It's the only issue that will get people who are apathetic to politics to pay any attention since everyone is getting rammed at the gas station.
It's going to be tough for him to do so, but I agree. Basically, I think McCain is a stupid old fart and Obama is pie-in-the-sky far too often.
What McCain is going to do is completely flip-flop on off-shore drilling. At that point, B. Hussein should accurately point on the oil companies have 68 million untapped acres of off-shore leases they haven't drilled on yet.
There is truth to both sides of the argument, but everyone should agree corn gas is was a retarded idea and it needs to stop.
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6/24/2008 4:04 PM
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Yeah, if McCain's numbers start to drop in Cali/Florida, he'll probably come out and say that his idea for offshore drilling isn't that pressing of an issue and we should focus on alternatives.
That's the thing....the reasonable solution should be to drill now where we can AND work towards alternative sources of energy( like McCain's recent $300 million proposal for the developing of a more efficient battery operated car).
The media tries to paint this issue as it's either one or the other. McCain's proposal should be getting a lot more attention than it has and I'd say the same thing if Barry had proposed it.
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6/24/2008 4:07 PM
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I saw Biden on Meet the Press this past Sunday say that by the time offshore drilling begins to the time they reach oil will take 10 years. He said it twice and nobody refuted him.
Obviously we need to have long-term energy goals in mind, but it appears that people are thinking of offshore drilling as a short-term fix, when it doesn't seem to be true.
Is Biden right?
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6/24/2008 4:13 PM
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That's the MO of the Dems. These things could be up and running in under 5 years. They keep crying "that will take 10 years" whenever drilling is mentioned.
I'm still waiting for Nancy Pelosi and the Dems to state, exactly, what their common sense plan is regarding gas prices that she boldly stated in 2006.
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6/24/2008 4:16 PM
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From what I've read, Biden is right. We're relatively fucked for 10-15 years.
Everything should be on the table right now, but the picture being painted by the Republicans right now is "the tree hugging Democrats have screwed us by not allowing oil companies to drill". The reality is the oil companies don't want to make oil cheaper.
They should already be drilling on the land they have and work through the red tape on the rest of it WHILE they are producing oil.
What I've heard (and it makes sense) is the oil companies don't want to get too aggressive drilling for this oil only to find they have to sell it at a lower price, but they are using the fear generated by high oil/gas prices to secure more public land and get a stranglehold for the future.
No matter what, one of the keys to increasing the oil production overseas and providing short term relief is showing a WILLINGNESS to be energy independent. Start drilling. Start building Nuclear plants. Start issuing cash prizes/grants to push technology forward.
We need to start doing something. It's maddening.
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6/24/2008 4:20 PM
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Sounds like someone is approaching their "tipping point"...
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6/24/2008 4:24 PM
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These things could be up and running in under 5 years. They keep crying "that will take 10 years" whenever drilling is mentioned.
I gotta think that building the infrastructure and the rigs for this is a massive project that cannot be completed in 5 years. Still, 5 years is a long time, too.
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6/24/2008 4:26 PM
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Not even close...I just fear $7, $10, $12 gas and I don't think people understand or care that we have to start now if we have any chance to avoid that. Of course, $10 gas is only the tip of the iceberg...the cost of everything else goes up with it.
From what I can gather, it will take 10- 15 years before the market would be affected in any meaningful way by off-shore drilling. I imagine it would take longer to get Nuclear plants built, tested, operational, and on the grid...
I mean, if it's going to take that long for these measures to help, I just can't understand why they are sitting there with their birds in their hands. Let's get shit moving.
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6/24/2008 4:26 PM
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My post was to GGB
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6/24/2008 4:26 PM
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What I meant to say was, if it takes 5 years to reap the benefits or 10 years like Biden says, it's still a long time to wait, either way.
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6/24/2008 4:27 PM
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The only way to win this election is with offshore drilling and ANWR. This is the only issue the GOP is on the right side of the public with and gas prices are going to be the only salient issue this fall.
If I am McCain, I hope gas prices continue to rise.
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6/24/2008 4:31 PM
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fd, they aren't doing anything because this country has been indirectly run by soccer moms with 5 minute attention spans for years now. No one cares about anything until it starts hitting their bottom line.
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6/24/2008 4:34 PM
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Right, the country is run by soccer moms. Corporations, special interest groups, lobbyists, and the military-industrial complex are all fighting for more say with the soccer moms.
Unbelievable.
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The only way to win this election is with offshore drilling and ANWR. This is the only issue the GOP is on the right side of the public with and gas prices are going to be the only salient issue this fall.
If I am McCain, I hope gas prices continue to rise.
It's a sticky wicket. People hate oil companies, so he first has top paint Big Oil as this sympathetic NFP just dying to help the American public save money.
Second, the Republicans presided over this mess. If people are going to blame anyone for high gas, it's McCain (not Obama).
Third, the dems have the stats on untapped fields the Oil companies are sitting on.
Fourth, they can play shit on a LOOP about the Iraq war paying for itself, cheap gas from regional stability, etc., etc., etc.
People are pissed about gas...but they are pissed at HIM. It's going to take a lot of work to swing that in his favor.
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6/24/2008 4:40 PM
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Yeah, the good old cheaper gas due to Iraq stability loop could and should be the death for the GOP this election.
However, that goes back to my soccer mom/5 minute attention span comment. The majority don't care and won't take the time to research those points.
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