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Seth in 736
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7/2/2008 2:38 PM
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munchdaddy
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7/2/2008 2:33 PM
Yo Seth,
The water park at Heritage USA rocked!
Yeah, we went in January.
A blast I tell ya.
NUTTIN BUT Shows etc.
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NotoriousEAG
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7/2/2008 2:45 PM
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I enjoyed the entire experience. We knew we held the moral high ground, so there was no need to stoop to their level with profanity and insults.
The one video I remember watching in school was the video of a birth. The only thing I remember is that the chick's pussy was a hairy as Burt Reynold's chest. Turned me off on that forever
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bassiladelph
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7/2/2008 2:51 PM
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You should see what the place looks like today
Munch, I got a weird vibe from viewing those pics. The same vibe I got from looking at Elena Filatova's pics of Chernobyl.
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munchdaddy
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7/2/2008 2:57 PM
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Funny you should say that bass because I was thinking the exact same thing.
It is freaky the hold that the bakers had on millions of people. It is even freakier the speed at which it all collapsed after Jessica Hahn.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 3:13 PM
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The 2nd coming is goin to happen- whether there's turmoil over there or whatever. They know that.
honestly, i thought that the whole point was that israel had to be in the control of the jews for the second coming to happen, thus the basis for evangelical support for israel and the jews.
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Seth in 736
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7/2/2008 3:16 PM
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No.
When God's ready for it to happen, you could be in the middle of bumpin uglies with the wife, or being fired from your job- regardless- when its goin to happen, its goin to happen.
Like Bass said, those who do feel this way (Hugabee) are a) wrong and b) NOT in the majority.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 3:18 PM
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seth, so where are they (Hagee and the like) getting this from?
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bassiladelph
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7/2/2008 3:31 PM
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seth, so where are they (Hagee and the like) getting this from?
Not to butt in, but some of these people have their own intentions in mind, (incorrectly) reasoning that the level of unrest in the ME is the last great sign that the final battle is approaching. This line of thinking may be prophetically based, in their eyes, but it's akin to making applesauce out of dirt.
There's A TON of stuff that has to happen before Armageddon, but a lot of people don't know that. instead, they'll rely on these nuts to tell them what they should think, and mindlessly troll along.
According to Scripture, Armageddon is where the final battle will take place, but aligning with Israel will not force the Second Coming to happen. Not to mention, it says in the Scriptures that the OPPOSITE will happen.
I don't profess to know EVERYTHING that's in Revelations (I'd be foolish to think that). But if you look at it, you can tell that what's supposed to happen isn't exactly what they're telling you.
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GlennGoBlue
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7/2/2008 3:33 PM
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Pretty enlightening discussion today, actually that I somewhat unintentionally touched off. As to what people thought, etc....
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BMA
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7/2/2008 3:40 PM
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No doubt, Glenn. Lots of bitter folks clinging to their guns and religion.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 3:42 PM
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thanks bass, but again, i'm thinking there must be SOMETHING in the scripture that says something about israel or jerusalum being under jewish rule before the rapture for these christians to make it such an important part of their belief and politics.
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Seth in 736
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7/2/2008 3:47 PM
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Flesh- there's stuff in the O.T about slavery bein "OK"- its all about who's reading what and to what end they'll use it/twist it to suit their own ends.
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GlennGoBlue
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7/2/2008 3:54 PM
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"thanks bass, but again, i'm thinking there must be SOMETHING in the scripture that says something about israel or jerusalum being under jewish rule before the rapture for these [few and far between ]christians to make it such an important part of their belief and politics [and spout off about it enough for SZR to find links about the oddballs to try to make a convincing argument].
Fixed it for you. And maybe you oughta give it a read and see for yourself?
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SeeZakRun
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7/2/2008 3:55 PM
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Christian Zionism is very real GGB. I'm glad you learned something today.
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NotoriousEAG
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7/2/2008 4:00 PM
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 4:10 PM
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"thanks bass, but again, i'm thinking there must be SOMETHING in the scripture that says something about israel or jerusalum being under jewish rule before the rapture for these [few and far between ]christians to make it such an important part of their belief and politics [and spout off about it enough for SZR to find links about the oddballs to try to make a convincing argument].
it's easy to find links; as zak said, christian zionism is very real. falwell, robertson, delay, to name but a few prominent christian zionists. i think falwell had a pretty good influence on evangelical chrisitianity in this country, don't you?
And maybe you oughta give it a read and see for yourself?
not really any point in that. the thing has been translated and mistranslated so many times at this point that there is no way to know what was originally written or intended, which might be interesting to know purely from a historical standpoint.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 4:11 PM
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Flesh- there's stuff in the O.T about slavery bein "OK"-
there sure is, one of the million reasons why i don't understand how people base their worldview on such a text.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 4:14 PM
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And there are Jewish Anti-Zionists
yup. many jewish zealots even within israel who don't recognize it as a state. according to them, only the messiah can restore israel to the jews.
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SeeZakRun
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7/2/2008 4:18 PM
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[few and far between ]christians...
...who are house majority leaders...
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GlennGoBlue
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7/2/2008 4:19 PM
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Nobody argued whether it was real, SZR. The Debate was clearly about how high up the list of priorities it was for anything approaching a significant portion.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 4:23 PM
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The Debate was clearly about how high up the list of priorities it was for anything approaching a significant portion.
man, you are stubborn. it is high up on the list of some of the most influential american christians of the last 40 years, ok?
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bassiladelph
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7/2/2008 4:25 PM
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thanks bass, but again, i'm thinking there must be SOMETHING in the scripture that says something about israel or jerusalum being under jewish rule before the rapture for these christians to make it such an important part of their belief and politics.
The other thing to remember that not everyone who professes the gospel BELIEVES it. It's merely a vehicle for them to take advantage of the people who don't read up, who aren't serious.
there sure is, one of the million reasons why i don't understand how people base their worldview on such a text.
Some people view it as rendering a service for pay. The people who distorted that view tried to make blacks believe that God wanted them all to be slaves and whites to be their masters. Many verses in the Bible can be/have been distorted to suit the needs of the reader, and we're not even talking slavery; we're talking even simpler messages like Joel Osteen's.
I'll check on the religious rule part for you SZR, but even aside from that, lots of other things have to happen; things that these nimrods would say are happening now that really aren't.
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GlennGoBlue
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7/2/2008 4:25 PM
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No, again, it is not. Not on a relative basis.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 4:25 PM
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and glenn, i'm still curious as to how the fear exploited by republicans over the years (everything from willie horton to swiftboat) is akin to the influence that (you percieve) jewish republicans have in middle eastern policy.
apples and oranges.
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flesh4fantasy
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7/2/2008 4:29 PM
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The people who distorted that view tried to make blacks believe that God wanted them all to be slaves and whites to be their masters. Many verses in the Bible can be/have been distorted to suit the needs of the reader, and we're not even talking slavery; we're talking even simpler messages like Joel Osteen's.
i agree again, bass, which is why i don't know how it can be trusted. i'm sure we are all aware of the story that "maiden" was mistranlated (intenionally or not) to "virgin" regarding jc's mom, radically alternatining the history of world in the process.
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