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8/1/2008 6:33 PM
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I think having Moses in at the end is what made that spot work.
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Fred_Barnett
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8/1/2008 6:44 PM
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That ad is doomed to backfire- some people are just dumb enough to take that as a positive message- and the people who are smart see it for what it is
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section 371
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8/1/2008 7:56 PM
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I'm pulling the lever for the half white middle aged guy.
Obama (47 this month) and dead from unnatural causes after two months in office. Shotgun blast aka JFK blown away.
McCain (72 this month) dead from natural causes after 2 years in office. Massive heart attack aka old fkn POW dude.
No brainer kids.
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Fred_Barnett
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8/1/2008 9:53 PM
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Section, that's no reason to vote for somebody.
Now a good reason would be-
"Which candidate would I be most likely to go to the strip joint with, grab chicks' asses and make it rain in the VIP lounge"
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BMA
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8/2/2008 1:54 PM
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Good timing by Obamination on his flip flop on drilling. Congress just went into recess after that communist Pelosi successfully barred any vote on removing the offshore drilling ban. Such a stance is politically untenable and during the month of August the more insane Democrats have no choice but to backtrack on the issue and find a way to say, "Okay, we can drill, we were wrong." Without actually saying they were wrong.
It'll be along the lines of what Obama said, so that when Congress reconvenes in September something will get done and they will point to the "safer" drilling measures they successfully held out for. Whatever that means. Anyone with a working brain stem will see through Hussein on this, but that's politics.
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Fred_Barnett
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8/2/2008 2:14 PM
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There is something inherently un-American about your anti-Obama barrage BMA.
Actually you sound like a robot
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8/2/2008 3:52 PM
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That's pathetic,FB.
I'm very much pro America which is why I'm so anti-Barry.
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Fred_Barnett
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8/2/2008 4:49 PM
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BMA
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8/2/2008 6:07 PM
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That's right! I forgot FB's theory that elections are won in the summer. I'm sure you're excited for Barry's swearing in next month!
Since you love these summer polls, care to tell us the latest Gallup numbers? It's tied 44 all, jackass.
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fågelpojke
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8/3/2008 3:33 AM
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BMA, if you love America so much, why are you so afraid of people that disagree with you?
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8/3/2008 3:41 AM
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I didn't see any indication of fear in BMA's response, just debate. What are you talking about?
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IggleMovedSouth
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8/3/2008 9:29 AM
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It has nothing to do with "fearing" people that disagree with you. It has everything to do with feeling that Obama would make this country worse with his Marxist ideals. One of my biggest issues is with his wanting to tax people who make over 170K at such a high level. People who worked their ass off to get to this point, should NOT be crushed by Obama.
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BMA
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8/3/2008 10:51 AM
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Let's see...I'm un-American and I'm afraid of those that disagree with me. Go ahead and call me racist so we can have the triple play of weak and stupid retorts. This thread is going to be fantastic come November.
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8/3/2008 10:53 AM
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IMS, Barry has ZERO clue on how the economy works and that's my biggest problem as well, especially with the economy circling the drain. This clown will flush it, no doubt about it.
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8/3/2008 10:54 AM
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And you just proved my point to some extent. Twice in your response, you referred to the Democratic nominee as "Obama". His actual name. You didn't feel the need to degrade him by calling him "Barry" or using his unfortunate middle name. BMA does on a constant basis.
I disagree with a lot of your politics, but at least you seem to have thought out your positions. Same thing with S736 & GGB. BMA just froths at the mouth every time someone brings up Obama (or any other D for that matter) in a positive light. The boy sounds skeert.
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fågelpojke
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8/3/2008 11:01 AM
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I never said you were un-American or a racist. I think you're a nitwit and a blowhard, but not much more.
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8/3/2008 11:03 AM
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I will agree with you that Pelosi has to go. She's the worst possible face the Democratic party or the US Congress could put forward.
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Fred_Barnett
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8/3/2008 12:28 PM
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skeert.
Haven't heard that in a while-
NTFF
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f-dallas
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8/3/2008 2:15 PM
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FD, I don't think your claims about the noise of viability of wind power are true (anymore). They now say a wind turbine is no louder than a fridge when 750 to 1000 yards away.
It's possible they've improved the technology, but the one currently in place are very loud and tend to be a menace to surrounding communities. I'm also assumign they drive property value down significantly.
I, for one, wouldn't want a wind farm withion miles of my house.
I did a quick search and there are tons and tons of web sites about the noise issues. Here's one and Turbine noise, but there are thousands of others.
What I thought was really interesting was this quote from the link above: The wind industry is very aware of this problem but tries to "hide" it by taking visitors directly under the turbines where there is typically little noise"
I found this quote from a recent article linked below:
As for noise, I didn’t find them that noisy even standing under a turbine when I visited the much larger wind farm in Shelburne
I read another article recently which said Denmark (which has been using wind turbines for over 25 years) is moving them out onto the ocean in part to increase efficiency and in part due to noise pollution.
Like I said, they may have improved the technologoy, but I wouldn't want those things anywhere near me. I would much, much, much rather have a nuclear facility a mile from me than a wind turbine.
click here
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8/3/2008 4:24 PM
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I don't pretend to know anything about this debate- but I think I take a little "noise on the wind" over "radioactive fallout on the wind"
It's not like those things are 100% safe, no?
I don't know.
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8/4/2008 8:21 AM
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Nuclear plants are like airplanes. They're a lot safer than people give them credit for being, but when one crashes and burns it makes the news worldwide. That's why it SEEMS that they're dangerous.
Also, when a nuclear plant breaks down, it has a pretty immediate and profound affect on the surrounding population.
That being said, we're up against a pretty tough problem right now in terms of energy sourcing and we're going to have to make some tough decisions. In that respect, (to bring this back to the topic of the presidential elections) I think Obama is the only one who's got a shot at making those tough decisions. It's not that I love Obama, because I definitely do not, it's just that I think he'll make much better decisions than McCain will. McCain would make an average president, but I think Obama might have the willpower to make some of the tough calls.
You can see that he's learning from his campaign and he IS changing some of his stances away from previous ones. As BMA pointed out, some of his previous stances were naive and tough to defend, and those are the ones where he's drifting center. And he IS definitely drifting center, which is where our next president needs to be.
We've got a lot of work ahead of us as a country, and we're going to have to work together in order to do it. I think Obama is making, and will make, some serious efforts to reach out to both Americas because we're ALL going to have to pitch in to dig ourselves out from under the problems we have.
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8/4/2008 9:20 AM
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He is drifting to the center in order to get elected... nothing more, nothing less.
That old coot McCain is terrible but his energy plan trounces Barry's. That clown Barry was telling people to keep your tires inflated so we wouldn't have to drill offshore. That was, of course, before he "changed" his position.
Change we can believe in.
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f-dallas
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8/4/2008 10:51 AM
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Also, when a nuclear plant breaks down, it has a pretty immediate and profound affect on the surrounding population.
Yeah...if it goes bad, it break really bad. Still, there hasn't been a significant accident in the history of this country and only one in the entire world. I'd be willing to bet that wind turbines have killed or injured more people than nuke plants in the U.S.
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BMA
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8/4/2008 11:05 AM
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And for God's sake don't forget about the poor birds flying into turbines!
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fågelpojke
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8/4/2008 12:04 PM
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The worst part about the TMI "disaster" was that the two preeminent authorities disagreed about what the problem was ans what should be done.
Chernobyl was a catastrophe from the time the plant was drawn on paper. The Soviets at that time were a mess with technology. They had trouble making light bulbs that lasted more than a few days, let alone designing & building a Nuke-U-lar Power plant.
Sweden has many (and is planning to build more) plants. France gets something like 70% of the electricity from nuclear. The US has (or imports) the best minds on the planet. I don't doubt that they could build a VERY safe plant.
And BMA, fret not for the little birdies. That's where McDonalds get most of the "meat" for their "Chicken Nuggets".
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