NotoriousEAG

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6/11/2008 10:17 AM




"Dey kickin' him, dey kickin him!"




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 10:17 AM




I love that it always comes back to Action News.




GlennGoBlue

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6/11/2008 10:18 AM




That story is a Top-Tenner of the year for me so far. I like his little LT impression trying to dash for paydirt. Sorry, fella.




Seth in 736

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6/11/2008 10:19 AM




Tis Philly, baby.

Like summers downashore, Cheesesteak arguments, black cherry wisniak, wudder ice, the Phanatic, Eagles Tailgating, high murder rates and political corruption- Action News IS Philly.




NCSaintsFan

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6/11/2008 10:21 AM




Plus, Olberman is accountable, even is he sometimes sees things that aren't there. He doesn't lie or make up reports even though he's a flaming liberal.

f-d, he's not accountable. He purposefully avoids elements of stories to create his truth and then accuses others of doing it. He only interviews in friendly terrirory because he knows he build houses of cards. He's said incredibly outrageous things and has never been called to account for them nor has he retracted them.

Credible newsmen refuse to appear on his program because he diminishes their field.

He's like Sean hannity, only Hannity has a defense. Hannity's just reading off cue cards. Olberman actually believes the horse**** he spouts.

Seriously, if you watch him for anything other than entertainment, you've gone off the deep end.




NotoriousEAG

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6/11/2008 10:22 AM




Mummers march
Flyers score
Summers down the shore
William Penn
Bouthouse Row
Weekends in the poconos




bassiladelph

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6/11/2008 10:23 AM




Seriously, if you watch him for anything other than entertainment, you've gone off the deep end.

At this point, you could replace "him" with "the media" and not be too far off the mark.




Seth in 736

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6/11/2008 10:24 AM




Hooky needs to make an appearance with NEAG's latest offering.




NotoriousEAG

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6/11/2008 10:26 AM




That guy in the video is definatly pretty athletic though




Seth in 736

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6/11/2008 10:27 AM




Very much so.

I'll say it again.


You can just FEEL the desperation that dude does not want to GO BACK to prison.
You only run like that if you’ve experienced that hell once before (or more.)




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 10:32 AM




f-d, he's not accountable. He purposefully avoids elements of stories to create his truth and then accuses others of doing it. He only interviews in friendly terrirory because he knows he build houses of cards. He's said incredibly outrageous things and has never been called to account for them nor has he retracted them.

Credible newsmen refuse to appear on his program because he diminishes their field.

He's like Sean hannity, only Hannity has a defense. Hannity's just reading off cue cards. Olberman actually believes the horse**** he spouts.

Seriously, if you watch him for anything other than entertainment, you've gone off the deep end.


85%- 90% of his show is just calling people out for saying things that were either untrue or just absurd. So, if he spent the last 10%- 15% just riffing fake news off the top of his head, he'd still be the more "accountable" than his doppelgangers are the other side.

Far as credible newsmen go, he doesn't have an argument/shout-off show. He has a "making fun of the far-right" show. There are plenty of credible newsmen and women on his show, but yeah...they are absolutely people of like mind.




Jules_Jr

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6/11/2008 11:52 AM




What was the last absurd thing Olberman stated? Seriously? I understand the view that he's a "fraud" but based on what?




NotoriousEAG

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6/11/2008 11:55 AM




No one watches Olberman so it is irrelavent.

O'Reilly's 11 O'Clock rerun routinely outdraws Olberman's 8 o'clock show




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 12:06 PM




EAG, Olberman got his first ratings win against O'Reilly last week and publicly thanks him for the 10K viewers he gets every time O'Reilly mentions his name.




NotoriousEAG

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6/11/2008 12:13 PM




Where do you see this?
Yo, click it




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 12:17 PM




Here's a good link I saw today on what the average tax bill would look like under Obama and McCain. This is a plus or minus compared to the average tax bill now (not a total number, since the government knows we'd start another revolution if we ever saw the real numbers), assumes the full plan would be put into place, and gives income ranges.

Pretty interesting, though:


Yo, click it




GlennGoBlue

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6/11/2008 12:17 PM




Any Major League Baseball Game
Any Episode of American Justice.
Most Animal Planet programs.
Just about any HGTV Real-estate themed show.
Jon and Kate Plus 8.
Random "Dating on Demand" Videos.
Any Golf Channel Programming that's not Paid Programming.
Madden Nation.
Larry King Live
Anything on MHD.
Anything on the National Geographic Channel.





"What is, a partial list of things GGB would watch before switching on one of those ubiquitous political spin/pundit shows"?



"Correct."



I'll take Celebrity Topless Scenes for $1200, Alex.




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 12:21 PM




Where do you see this?
Yo, click it


I just checked and he beat him in the 25- 54 demo for the entire week. That's the only one the stations care about, I guess.

I guess it was a big deal because it was the first time it happened and the first "competition" of O'Reilly to ever do it.




NCSaintsFan

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6/11/2008 12:22 PM




EAG,
I saw a NY Times article that said Olberman had a few thousand more viewered in a certain demographic over a week's period. When all vieweres were factored in and when you weigh Olberman being on five days vs. four for O'Reilly, the victory gets more hollow.

But shaving from the full picture is the guy's game.

Anyway, I'd rather not discuss O'Reilly or Olberman. I watch neither and if both went away, I think TV would survive. Olberman, like O'reilly, has folks constantly fact-checking the lies and bias.

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2007/12/keith_olbermann_71.php#more

There's a link to the main site, if anyone's interested (I'm betting, "Not").




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 12:23 PM




Here's the link:


Yo, click it




NCSaintsFan

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6/11/2008 12:24 PM




NY Times article




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 12:25 PM




EAG,
I saw a NY Times article that said Olberman had a few thousand more viewered in a certain demographic over a week's period. When all vieweres were factored in and when you weigh Olberman being on five days vs. four for O'Reilly, the victory gets more hollow.

But shaving from the full picture is the guy's game.


Not at all...that's TV. That demo is how hosts are paid, how advertisers pay, etc.

If anything, the inflated number of "total" viewers including the 70 year old who leave one channel on all night and don't spend money are the ones who skew the stats.

I'm not trying to prop anyone up...it was just a "news" item and we were talking about Olbermann.

I couldn't care less who wins a ratings war between 2 guys I've never met on shows I rarely/never watch.




NCSaintsFan

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6/11/2008 12:26 PM




People may not be able to see the NY Times article. Not sure if they block it for non-subscribers/registered people.

A Ratings Coup for Keith Olbermann

By Brian Stelter

Keith Olbermann may not be going on vacation anytime soon.

Mr. Olbermann, the host of “Countdown” on MSNBC, cancelled his vacation plans for this week when it appeared likely that his program, which debuted five years ago as a distant also-ran to its counterparts on Fox News Channel and CNN, may beat Fox in the 25- to 54-year-old demographic for a full week for the first time.

And sure enough, “Countdown” did displace “The O’Reilly Factor,” hosted by Mr. Olbermann’s arch-nemesis Bill O’Reilly, last week in that demographic.

It was an admittedly unusual week, fueled by the final Democratic primaries. Excluding Tuesday’s primary coverage, “Countdown” netted 477,000 viewers in the demographic, while the “Factor” averaged 472,000. The “Countdown” ratings helped MSNBC best Fox in the demo in prime time for the week.

Hoping to extend the streak, Mr. Olbermann has delayed his vacation indefinitely. Mr. O’Reilly took his usual day off on Friday, though — a point reiterated by a Fox spokeswoman. On the three days Mr. O’Reilly and Mr. Olbermann were head-to-head, the Fox host prevailed. And as usual, Mr. O’Reilly doubled Mr. Olbermann in total viewers.

Still, boosted by the Democratic primary battle, MSNBC believes it has momentum, which explains the press release promoting the demo win. “We’re growing, and he’s regressed,” Mr. Olbrrmann said in an email message.




NCSaintsFan

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6/11/2008 12:26 PM




Not at all...that's TV. That demo is how hosts are paid, how advertisers pay, etc.

I didn't mean that you shaved things. I meant Olberman.

Like I said, I'd rather move on.




f-dallas

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6/11/2008 12:28 PM




Yeah...it was definitely huge news for Olbermann and bad news for O'Reilly, but I couldn't care less. They are more or less the same guy on opposite sides of the isle.




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