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seriously, I cant believe im gettin into this with you cos a) Im very busy, b) I dont have the same passion for fighting as you do it seems, i thought i was very fair and provided a fair look at how you are baited and how you retaliate for much of your posts in those threads and lastly c) what the hell is the point again?

I just accurrately pointed out that much of the ongoing stuff in the concourse now can be considered baiting, there's participation on both ends, and it "sells" if you will. As in there's no shortage of posts in any thread that can conceivably feature some racial debate.

thats all.
Very cut and dry look at why and what happened to the concourse if you ask me.

After a two peruse of the first couple pages of that thread, I think this quote just about ends this "debate" over this 736:





uber1024

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4/11/2006 3:29 PM





I dunno, dudes. I think all Fred is trying to say is "this is what it feels like when your group is falsely accused of something, and it sucks, doesn't it?" Nowhere has he tried to say that it's not unfair and nowhere has he tried to say that it's no big deal.

I don't know why that's such a tough pill to swallow. In a way, he's kind of agreeing with some of you guys but you just want to fight with him about it.

Are you goin to force me to go looking thru that thread? Really?

You can if you want, all you'll find is what I said I said, and not that crap you made up.

Fred, Ive been wrong out here before an dnever had an issue admitting that.

I dont just play the "Im kidding" card like "SOME" people around here.

If im wrong, and you were fair and balanced in your take all throughout that thread, I'll cop to it.
(Then find the thread in which you debuted your jackassery and that silly little philosophy of "you dont know what its like- hopelessness- thats why they _____")

Seth, watch the video

NTF

736, I accept your apology

if i need to i will.

Wont be my 1st.


And it wont be a "Just kidding" or "Gotchya!" either.

I see.


So you're conveniently ignoring the quote from Uber I posted from that thread?


Ok.


Well, while you're frantically trying to rewrite history, maybe you should save a sheet of paper for your apology as well- although I won't be holding my breath for that either

Fred, you got off to a bit of a bad start in that thread by, yes, basically saying "this is how it feels to be unjustly accused", when in that case the Lax players had DNA evidence on their side and STILL, the black community in Durham was still marching on the side of the accuser.

It comes off a tad like you supporting the marchers, whether that was your intent or not. And you are also comparing apples and oranges a bit with the "falsely accused" part when I doubt you can cite a case of a falsely accused AA that had DNA evidence on their side ahead of time.

Seriously, your opening salvos in that thread are all about high-profile cases where (in the opening two, Stuart and Smith) a NONDESCRIPT black man or men were accused of something, without DNA evidence, that later proved to not be true. And you are using that to offset 3 PARTICULAR young white men accused of something where DNA evidence specifically EXONERATES them, all the while the local black community is up in arms and demanding justice?



Nice comparisons.




You came out looking like an idiot at the beginning of that long thread, and if people remember that correctly but not the particulars, then that's your own fault for trying to play Devil's Advocate with poor comparisons.

And you are using that to offset 3 PARTICULAR young white men accused of something where DNA evidence specifically EXONERATES them, all the while the local black community is up in arms and demanding justice?


You know what Glenn?

I'm not going to call you an idiot, as is the usual M.O.

I'm just goiing to point out that:

1) They were not exonerated at the time that I entered the fray

2) I gave them a fair shot- I did not damn them without evidence or a trial

3) I did not support the people who were protesting, I merely said "this is the reason they are upset"

4) Not only was the fact that I was just trying to stay neutral while giving a different perspective totally lost on the Three Amigos- more astute posters realized this and not only did they sate as much (Uber), but some actually took the time to read what I said, do the research, and actually back up points that I stated (Section)



So if you want to come at me...still...


I think the record speaks for itself

It certainly does.

FB, you seem to think you are always out here droppin knowledge, and upholding the right, and trying to educate a (predominantly) white group of users on the black experience.

I think your half delusional, you take almost NO responsibility for the crap you try to pass of here and when called out by more than the norm you offer a half hearted "just kidding" time and time again.

Your tone in the onset of that thread was precsiely as Glenn stated it, and that IS what i was left with, when harkening back to your debut of (mostly) buffoonery here on race relations.

Im not tanking a Friday morning going thru a thread to pull quotes from you.

I will apologize (may not need to, but again, not readin the link) for sayin that you thought they were guilty at the start. If glenn who i presume read the thread, didnt see/paste it then it likely didnt happen.
So, I do apologize for that incorrect recollection.

My memory however was shaped by your stance in the early goings which were no less wrong.
Hows that?

Anyone who's reread the thread must be shaking their head at your last post

Funny, I've done just that. My conclusions are as follows:

Negroes commit crimes

White men are emboldened by it

Fred Barnett is a repressed homosexual

"1) They were not exonerated at the time that I entered the fray"


Hey Genius_Barnett, this is the first line of the third paragraph in my post that began the thread, please excuse the typo:



"And, yet, the DNA results come come COMPLETELY negative for ALL 46 white players on the team."




Please commence calling me an idiot, as is the usual M.O.

They still were not exonerated at that point, you dope- as Nifong was still pushing the case- and there were conflicting reports and stories flying around. Read on, after your post

You're looking backwards and pulling that out when in fact nobody was sure if they were going to trial or not.

You're an idiot

Im sorry, wasnt Nifong widely regarded as a complete asshat and dope? Of COURSE he was pushing the case- WHY IS THAT FB!?

Not to mention- the DNA apparently on record and cleared all men, at the time you decided to go all KRS-1 on us.

More like Flav.

Just waiting for the Third Amigo to complete the triumverate

F_B, that was the entire point of my starting that thread, that the idiots that did not understand DNA evidence were marching for justice. So yes, they WERE exonerated via DNA, however the D.A. was being pressured by local afternoon nappers to push on regardless.

Right- and nobody was sure what evidence they actually had, to still be pursuing the case. Which was why nobody could definitely say what was gonna happen at that point.

I look at Bass's statement at evidence of that fact:

bassiladelph

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4/11/2006 11:26 AM





I don't doubt some sort of assult happened that night. Sexual? Don't know.

Even beyond the DNA evidence, it wasn't right that the media just ran with it and convicted the guys in the court of public opinion. But it's not like this stuff is anything new. Cowboys doing stuff. Soul players accused of rape. Kobe. Pretty much all considered guilty before a trial was set.

Even if charges are dropped, people's lives are ruined.


NEXT QUESTION

NTFF!


I would have looked down the page, I would have found THIS gem- Johnson laughing at you:

Johnson

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4/11/2006 11:33 AM





(GGB)-"I think the account I posted above is probably spot on what happened."

NTFF!

Countering conjecture with more speculation is always the answer.

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