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I mean, it was the first time a U.S. city had been bombed from the air.

well, there was pearl harbor, but that wasn't technically a city with civilians, nor was it done by our own government.

Real quick and then I'll be back later, but FB- i almost logged off before recalling that the MOVE peeps had beef with the city long before this and I THINK they killed a cop and someone got sentenced for that? Im sure if im wrong you'll correct me, but I wanna say that if Im right- theres a good example for you of how they're criminals- not just goat loving gun collectors.


Didnt they also invite vermin and thats what 1st got the neighbors CALLING CITY HALL TO DO SOMETHING!?? They shit in the yard and wouldnt remove it- human feces and urine, whether intially deposited there or taken outta the home and deposited there is an effin BIOHAZZARD YOU MORON!

And they had all sortsa rats etc that they felt it was inhumane to kill- damn the disease factor they invited to the 'hood.

And yes FB- the MOVE peeps fired `1st gunfire.

Flesh, if I'm driving on South St this weekend and am surrounded by a mob of urban youth who begin assaulting me like they did in the action news video, is it ok to just floor it, run 10 or 12 of them over and get the hell outta there if I feared for my life?

Is it me or have F_B and flesh joined forces like a tag team in the old Attitude Era of the WWF?


I don't speak for flesh at all.

In fact, he has insulted me on numerous occasions.

We have no alliance whatsoever.


I hate his guts in fact.


The the overriding fact remains- there are underlying issues with what people say out here, and sometimes different people come to the same conclusion.

I've asked Seth to be more specific on this topic- if he chooses to abstain, that is his right and his choice- but all we'll have to go on at that point are his previous statements

And yes FB- the MOVE peeps fired `1st gunfire.


Well, of course you have evidence of this... correct?

Fred and Flesh occasionally act like this is a courtroom or something.

I'm not a lawyer- but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night

well, there was pearl harbor

I should have been more clear - by "city" I meant "city."

And yes Fred, MOVE did fire first. They killed a cop in 1978 and also fired first in '85.

NTFF. When Dino is the 4th Amigo Fred is in trouble.


Again, I hate that children were involved but I think MOVE DID have it coming, and the fact that the Mayor then burned down a city block (with no other innocent bystanders harmed) is indeed pretty funny, in retrospect.



Again, "Mistakes were Made".

i don't think dino is playing the 4th amigo, he's just pointing out an accepted fact. i'm pretty sure firebombing a home with children in it isn't standard police procedure, even when confronted by gunfire.

fleshy can you answer my question from a legal standpoint please?

I see.


So a previous incident is grounds for a current attack, even when no menace is present?

You say 1978?

Fired first in 1985?


Interesting.


I'm wondering how that all went down- could you expound on the evidence of those two cases, and more specifically- where those originated?


And is it okay if I ask for slightly more than "eyewitness evidence" for corroboration?

I am not in any way firebombing a house. Just saying MOVE was not a group of cub scouts.

Fred, you have access to the interwebs, look it up.

I am not in any way CONDONING firebombing a house

Whoa, whoa, whoa Dino, it sounds like you are condoning it

You're right, fuck 'em.

Dino, I know the facts- I'm just playing Perry mason and inviting the less wary into my trap

That's what I say, fuck em. Filthy pigs

fleshy can you answer my question from a legal standpoint please?

if you could prove that you reasonably feared for your life, you'd probably be alright.

though if i was prosecuting, i'd check your background for evidence of racist tendencies to cast doubt on your motive and the reasonableness of your response.

Dude.

Neag said "nigger" not less than a couple of days ago- plus on repeated occasions he's demeaned and laughed at the plight of "the less fortunate coloreds"


Kinda even looks like Fuhrman, if you ask me

Fred, if you're Perry Mason, then you and NEAG have a lot more in common than you would probably like.

maybe you'd get called in as a witness for the prosecution, fred. could be a ground-breaking case on allowing a witness to testify to a defendant's character based on his message board persona.

Uh, I said "nigger" when I was quoting a movie.

"What you think you too good for welfare? There more white folk on the assistance than there is niggers, Ms Onassis" - Mary Jones, Precious

maybe you'd get called in as a witness for the prosecution, fred. could be a ground-breaking case on allowing a witness to testify to a defendant's character based on his message board persona.


Permission to treat the witness (flesh) as hostile?


I think it's a prima facie case.

The evidence is there for all to see- and clearly the burden of proof is on the accused.

Defend your statements, I say.

Defend your "persona"

Prove that you are not "who you claim to be" on a messageboard.



He's dead meat.

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