flesh4fantasy

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1/28/2010 9:44 AM




yeah, so the CIA operative who when national defending the practice of waterboarding? he now admits he was full of shit.
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Fred_Barnett

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1/28/2010 9:50 AM




In the words of the Peanuts gang, "Oh good grief"




flesh4fantasy

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2/27/2010 1:00 AM




god-hating liberals have higher IQs than the rest of the country. small comfort when we're burning in hell...
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Fred_Barnett

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2/27/2010 1:42 AM




that is utterly shocking




BrotherIggle

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2/27/2010 11:41 AM




yeah, so the CIA operative who when national defending the practice of waterboarding? he now admits he was full of shit.

1). Of the thousands of "illegal enemy combatants" detained; how many were waterboarded?

2). Why has the special prosecutor appointed by Attorney General Eric Holder in August of 2009 not produced any indictments? With everything written in the press, you would think it was an open and shut case.

3). Why has the Obama Administration after declassifying 1,000's of memos and reports some even at the request and strong urging of former Bush Administration Cabinet Level Officials all the sudden pulled back the reigns and rhetoric recommendations for prosecutions on torture?

4). Why is a "rider" attached to the latest intelligence appropriations bill requiring the criminal prosecution of CIA Agents involved in the "torture" of the _ (_ is a hints its less than 10 were waterboarded) terrorist masterminds being shelved by the Democratic Committee Leadership?

Long story short Flesh, I urge you to read: Courting Disaster How the CIA Kept America Safe and How Barack Obama Is Inviting The Next Attack (Marc A. Thiessen) fascinating read. Fills in gaps in reporting and corrects many of the misnomers found in the "mainstream" press. It may surprise you to find out the NYT does not always get the story right and for National Security Reasons the Government can not ask them to print a correction without evidence.








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2/27/2010 12:03 PM




Seems like that IQ study has you nailed perfectly, flesh:

Bailey also said that these preferences may stem from a desire to show superiority or elitism, which also has to do with IQ. In fact, aligning oneself with "unconventional" philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be "ways to communicate to everyone that you're pretty smart," he said.




KeithByars

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2/27/2010 12:03 PM





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flesh4fantasy

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2/27/2010 12:32 PM




nice link, kb.




BrotherIggle

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2/27/2010 7:21 PM




So we are liking a link to a blatant "left wing" news site... While dodging the questions posed...




KeithByars

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2/27/2010 7:28 PM




it's impossible to answer those questions without doing the research and seeing what's true and what's more of the same from the neocons




BrotherIggle

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2/27/2010 7:37 PM




Read the book! Every question is answered and "sourced" via DOJ and CIA memos and reports. The same memos and reports have all been declassified.




BrotherIggle

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2/27/2010 7:52 PM




KB, Flesh:

I will help you both along in the research process and get some of the questions answered...
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Dino727

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2/27/2010 8:35 PM




So let me get this straight. Daily Coz is not reliable because they are quite obviously left wing.

So what is Marc A. Thiessen = "fair and balanced?"




NotoriousEAG

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2/28/2010 2:10 AM




There has never been a more appropriate thread for this link
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BrotherIggle

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2/28/2010 10:21 AM




So let me get this straight. Daily Coz is not reliable because they are quite obviously left wing.

So what is Marc A. Thiessen = "fair and balanced?"


The Justice Department Memo I linked is spot on with the book. Can't say the same for any of the reporting in the Daily Coz..

I guess it does not matter that Holder, Obama's AG signed the Justice Department memo..




Fred_Barnett

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3/1/2010 10:35 AM




"Whenever I ponder the relationship between political success and smarts, I recall an interview I conducted with a particular George W. Bush supporter at a Wisconsin campaign rally shortly before the 2000 election. At that event, Bush had produced what seemed a record crop of weird and mangled statements, including this classic: "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."


NTFF
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bassiladelph

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3/2/2010 10:36 AM




Family has racked up tons in debt. Living above their means.

Family stumbles across a mistake made by their son's school district.

But it's not about the money, right?

Boni, a lawyer who has litigated class-action lawsuits, said that if the Robbins lawsuit was not certified as a class action, "it would limit damages and litigation costs to a great degree."

Really now.

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GlennGoBlue

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3/2/2010 10:52 AM




Not sure what point you are trying to make there, Bass.




NotoriousEAG

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3/2/2010 10:55 AM




Nothing like an old fashioned jew money spat.....like wattching a shark feeding frenzy, only less civilized




Fred_Barnett

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3/2/2010 2:18 PM




Anyone getting tired of Neag's "Jew rants", please raise your hands



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NotoriousEAG

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3/2/2010 2:52 PM




Madoff, like every successful con man, preyed upon people's greed. Suckers always want something for nothing and don't realize that if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Looks like ole Bernie found a fertile fishin hole at that particular club




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3/3/2010 12:56 PM




Slate reviews BI's favorite book:


"My gut reaction on reading Marc Thiessen's new book, Courting Disaster, was: "Why is a speechwriter who's never served in the military or intelligence community acting as an expert on interrogation and national security?" Certainly, everyone is entitled to a voice in the debate over the lawfulness and efficacy of President Bush's abusive interrogation program, regardless of qualifications. But if you're not an expert on a subject, shouldn't you interview experts before expressing an opinion? Instead, Thiessen relies solely on the opinions of the CIA interrogators who used torture and abuse and are thus most vulnerable to prosecution for war crimes. That makes his book less a serious discussion of interrogation policy than a literary defense of war criminals. Nowhere in this book will you find the opinions of experienced military interrogators who successfully interrogated Islamic extremists. Not once does he cite Army Doctrine—which warns of the negative consequences of torture and abuse. Courting Disaster is nothing more than the defense's opening statement in a war crimes trial."



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flesh4fantasy

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3/3/2010 1:25 PM




nice find, zak. i wouldn't have even bothered to read the jacket of a book on terrorist interrogations written by a bush speechwriter, and that's without realizing how uninformed and unqualified his opinion wash is.




NotoriousEAG

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3/3/2010 1:27 PM




Liberals always want us to fight wars with one hand tied behind our back.




KeithByars

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3/3/2010 1:28 PM




ntf




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