NotoriousEAG

Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 12:38 AM




Is the fuckin man.

Where are the Feleely loyalists now Talon.

I'm drunk as shit and a happy motherfucker right now

And feeling SUPER




LyteInc

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 12:52 AM




I guess with the playoffs accounted for I can get off my superstitious feeling about posting, and I just wanted to comment on how effing awesome Jeff has performed the last few games.

However, with the performance of the backs, the receivers and most notibly the line, his job is much easier. Like him or not, he has this team on a roll and they are a team that is hot in December. A win next week or a loss by Dallas means a home playoff game. While the team's wagon seems to be full, this guy's wagon should be as well. I don't believe AJ could have them in the same position.




Seth in 736

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 2:29 AM




2nd wknd I got from EAG in as many wks.


DO YOU REALIZE that i got not ONE text msg or call each of the last 2 years?

*not countin last yr*


I love when EAG's fired up.




uber1024

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 9:15 AM




Procedural question ...

Does the poster of Jeff Garcia go OVER the poster of Tony Romo, or does the Tony Romo poster come down and the one of Garcia go up?




jerobi

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 1:51 PM




uber, one simply trims around the body, thereby allowing both fine gentlemen to share space on the wall, perhaps in a mock "fiving high" display.




f-dallas

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 6:39 PM




Procedural question ...

Does the poster of Jeff Garcia go OVER the poster of Tony Romo, or does the Tony Romo poster come down and the one of Garcia go up?


This is my problem.

EAG, would you stop praising Garcia before he goes the way of every other QB you've annointed? I think we'd all like to keep the lightning in the bottle.




NotoriousEAG

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 7:29 PM




Well excuse me if I share in the excitement of a rather pleasently suprising Eagles streak, instead of looking for every explanation possible how the abscence of McNabb is not a contributing factor in the way this team looks.




f-dallas

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 8:26 PM




I never thought you'd be able to pin poor run defense on McNabb, but it doesn't shock me even a little.

Knowledgeable, passionate, and loyal.




f-dallas

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 8:32 PM




BTW, not taking anything away from Garcia...he's been outstanding.

Just want to point out the complete and utter absurdity of McNabb being in any way a part of their poor play.

The defense and playcalling we're fucked from start to finish. Both have been corrected and I just pray Reid sticks with this balanced offense next year with a healthy McNabb.




NotoriousEAG

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 8:51 PM




The offense looks alot better than it did with McKnobb, f-d, and you know it.




mlewis32kid

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 10:07 PM




EAG, be honest, are you 9 years old. Dont lie. Your the Iron Shiek of the'level, the classic heel




Hooky

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/26/2006 11:13 PM




Not to feed into this too much, but from where I stand the offense wasn't the crux of the problem earlier this season. Allowing opposing RBs to gash the defense and giving up dumbass penalties on game-deciding drives seemed to be more of a culprit. At that stage, I laid the blame squarely at the feet of the head coach for not being able to get these guys to see the impact of these things. In turn, I have to retract much of the bile I've spewed about the way that things seemed to spin out of his grasp and the way that he has been able to keep this thing pointed in the right direction at the end.

I'm not saying that Garcia had little to do with that, because he clearly has, but I'm also not going to say that McNabb was the reason that things ran away in the first place. He's no untouchable god, but he's not the antichrist either. Whatever the end result of this year ends up being, I hope that the final analysis ends up being something where the coaching staff can see that the best way to plan for a QB's success is not to force him to achieve it.




f-dallas

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 12:40 AM




The offense looks alot better than it did with McKnobb, f-d, and you know it.

No doubt and Garcia is a big part of it.

Fact is, Hooky nailed it. Coaching was/is to blame here. They balanced the offense and aren't asking Garcia to win games. They are running the ball and counting on Garcia to make clutch throws, not turn the ball over, not take sacks, etc.

They've actually been 50/50 on the run/pass ratio in Garcia's games as a starter. With McNabb, they calling designed passes 70% of the time...it was ridiculous.

The defense...I don't know how they fixed it unless the new longsnapper used some magic on them or Omar Gaither is some kind of Midget Defensive Line Whisperer. The offenseive fix was pretty simple and something everyone and their mother has been calling for even when McNabb was at the helm.

I just hope they take it to heart and use it next year.




OxfordEagle

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12/27/2006 1:08 AM




Clearly the coaches are calling more run plays, but on the plays that aren't runs, I am not sure how much lattitude the quarterback has to go deep or dump off, or hit the tight end. If the quarterback has enough lattitude, then I think he could have a major impact on conversion of 3rd down and on therefore time of possession. I also think that how the quarterback moves could have an impact on the pass protection he gets.




anvill72

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12/27/2006 6:02 AM




Subtly changing angles: To what extent is McNabb himself the reason for a 60-40 pass-run ratio?

Is that the way to keep him happy? Has he come out and said he'd like the team to run the ball more?

Not trying to bash McNabb, but how much of Garcia's clutch play has to do with plain smarts? Take the drive at the end of the first half. Would McNabb have done so well? Would he have found the receiver on the sidelines? Or would he have passed to someone in the middle of the field? I'm reminded of the last-gasp drive at the end of the SuperBowl when he dumped short to Westbrook instead of throwing it away to stop the clock.

I also recall that a big par of offensive failings early in the season were to do with dropped passes. Now, was that simply to do with coaching, or was it also to do with the way the ball is thrown?

What I'm getting at: keep everything (defense, catching, tackling, pass-run ratio etc) exacly as it is, but replace Garcia with a healty McNabb. Can McNabb do all the things Garcia is doing, only better?

I don't think it's a clear-cut issue. McNabb clearly has a stronger arm and can run better (when he wants to) - but can he get the team fired up, can he recognise the blitz and dump it off to the TE and throw the soft pass when required?

He could learn a heck of a lot from Garcia.




Jersey Bird

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12/27/2006 9:11 AM




I still belkieve that McNabb is/will be the guy for the future. However, I hope that he is paying attention to this eagles run and learning from Garcia.

The fire garcia shows actually forces other guys to hold themselves accountable for missed plays, bad decisions and general feeling of who gives a crap. When your QB is going to get in your face when you drop passes or miss a block or better yet, when you make an awesome play, it gets you a little more inspired.

Throw in the fact that Garcia isnt afraid to tuck the ball and run for 5-6 yards as a better play then standing behind the line and hoping that someone gets open looking for the big play, and you can see why the eagles are able to sustain drives and get into manageable third down scenarios.

As for the run pass ratio, garcia has been averaging like 5-6 runs per game from pass plays, so that skews things a little (maybe like 5%) but the ratio is a big reason that the whole offense is playing better.

Bottom line, I still think McNabb is the QB, although I am loving the run right now, and hope that they make the right decision with all of the extra cap space that they have and sign garcia for a 2 year extension.




Dean-o

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12/27/2006 9:26 AM




That twinkle in Reid’s eye, at the mere mentioning of Garcia's positive play, is Miami’s 2nd round draft pick in the upcoming draft.




Jules_Jr

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 10:42 AM




Jersey,

If you exclude Garcia's 6 runs, then the Birds actually ran 36 instead of 42 times, so that is closer to 15% than 5% for the Dallas game.

Admittedly, he only threw something like 25 times.




julamy

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 11:25 AM




"The defense...I don't know how they fixed it unless the new longsnapper used some magic on them or Omar Gaither is some kind of Midget Defensive Line Whisperer."

NTFF F-D, I had to stiffle laughter at work when I read that.

Unlike our new buddy Yo met, Jersey Bird raises some cogent points about McNabb vs. Garcia.

I still tend to think McNabb at this stage in his career (and if healthy) is the clear choice as starting QB. And I still believe that as well as Garcia has been playing, much of the credit for this run has to go to the coaches finally calling a game plan tailored to the skills of the talent.

While I tend to think McNabb has some ego problems, I tend to believe they are more of the lacking confidence variety than the over-confident, demand to throw the ball all the time type of neuroses.

But he shoud be watching, and learning, from the team's (and Garcia's) current play and if he is going to demand something from Reid when he returns it shoudl be a continuation of balanced offensive attack.




eagleeyebill

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 5:48 PM




just remember, because of salary cap issues due to the large signing bonus when his contract was extended, mcnabb is practically un-cutable and un-tradeable.

like it or not, he's here unless he's hurt or retires.




funky49

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 6:22 PM




That twinkle in Reid’s eye, at the mere mentioning of Garcia's positive play, is Miami’s 2nd round draft pick in the upcoming draft. - fool them once... shame on them. fool them twice... shame on them again.




Seth in 736

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 8:35 PM




Not to pile on too much, but if anyone here thinks McNabb and the McNabulous clan weren't all pullin for the Cowboys on Xmas nite, well, I got an ACL to sell you.


He was, and to think otherwise, given what he shows ya over his career here, characterwise, is to be one gullible mo fo.




NotoriousEAG

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 9:28 PM




Agree completly with Seth's post.

I wouldn't be suprised if the entire McNabb family was watching the game wearing the same Santa hat that T.O. was rockin'




NotoriousEAG

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 10:15 PM




The prosecution rests:


Momma McNabb:

Bittersweet

The win this week was great and I could actually say that's what I wanted for Christmas. Yes, now we have solidly beat the Cowboys with my son and without him. But I can hear you asking, mama McNabb what are you really thinking? Well here it is, the real deal. Its kind of bitter sweet for me as my son, the quarterback sits out on injured reserved watching the game during his rehab. I polled my family too and they feel the same. We want our team to win and even go to the Superbowl and win it in Miami especially if they continue to play as they have. But oh oh, if they win the Superbowl without my son, what would be the real outcome with the fans? Will they crucify him? Maybe, then the trade talks would begin. Off season madness, worse than last years fiasco. But guess what, I guess I'll have to take the beating if it comes. I would have to hope that scenario of the madness would not happen or be that bad. Well lets wait and see. Bitter sweet.





Hooky

RE: Jeff Garcia


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12/27/2006 10:21 PM




Thanks for doing that kindness N-eag.




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