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1/8/2007 1:11 PM
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I thought the refs calls a pretty brutal game.
On a related note, it seems like the Eagles never get pass interference or roughing calls. Has anyone else noticed that?
Skim back through this thread as the game was going on. I was going crazy over the missed calls.
I don't know if you can attribute it to the playoffs or "just letting them play football," but I think the Giants O-line got away with OBVIOUS holds and plenty of facemasks on at least a third of their plays. Center Jamaal Jackson probably needs a new face mask after getting it yanked down so often after the snap.
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1/8/2007 1:22 PM
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LV EAgle,
I don't have tivo but my buddy called me and told me the same thing. I think it was number 54 for the giants hitting LJ Smith in the kidney area....
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1/8/2007 1:26 PM
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The officiating was terrible. I hope I am just being a bit paranoid, but I have a feeling the officiating gets worse next week. The Saints are this year's NFL poster team. Kind of how the Steelers were last year, the Pats before that. Look at all the calls (and no calls) that went in their favor. Call it paranoia, or just being an Eagles fan, but I think the Eagles are the better team but the refs are going to find a way to advance the Saints.
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1/8/2007 1:31 PM
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The Saints are this year's NFL poster team. Kind of how the Steelers were last year,
Polamalu INT vs. the Colts.
Explain that one.
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1/8/2007 1:31 PM
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I didn't think that was definitely going out of bounds because it was losing steam and the Giants player was about 10-15 yards away sprinting down the sidelines. It was too risky not to pick that up.
I agree 100% SZR - that ball was not going out of bounds fast enough, Mahe did the right thing.
Most of these hit already, but
The good:
Westbrook. The guy's amazing.
The defense after the 1st drive, especially in the 1st quarter when the birds were getting killed in the field position game.
Koy & Akers. Anyone still have a problem with Koy being signed for the playoffs, especially after watching Tony "I Love Tommy Hutton" Romo on Saturday?
The offense - not panicking after a few horrible series to start the game. 31 rushes, 31 passes, winning the T.O.P., NO TURNOVERS.
The bad:
The defense on the 1st drive.
Lito getting hurt.
The ugly:
Nothing ugly about a playoff win.
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1/8/2007 2:00 PM
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1/8/2007 2:44 PM
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Seems Dawk is taking his whole Wolverine persona a bit far. Even Aikman and Buck were like... "I don't know what that's all about"
I can hear the "SNIKT" every time I look at that picture.
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1/8/2007 2:45 PM
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I really think Dawkins thinks he IS Wolverine on some plays, this one included.
But as goofy as it looks, the guy does have a pretty nice track record of knocking the ball loose with that "wraparound hammerfist" manuever, for lack of a better term.
Over the top in that play? No doubt. And pun intended.
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1/8/2007 2:46 PM
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Johnson, that's downright creepy that we both posted that at once.
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Even my girlfriend stated "WTF?!?" when Dawkins did that. (and during his pre-game intro as well) Does he take his on-field persona a little too seriously? Probably, but he's built the rep with it where people have been scared of him for years.
Whatever it takes to get pumped up to that level is OK I suppose.
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1/8/2007 3:18 PM
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SZR
You did watch the Super Bowl, right? Was there ever a more lopsided game in bad officiating history?
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1/8/2007 3:24 PM
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I was at the game and didn't see a replay, or get good feedback from WYSP, on what happened to cause 2 offsetting personal fouls.
From my seat (Sec210 at the top in the south endzone) we a single falg comoe out, then it seeemed liek every zebra ont eh feild tossed a yellow hankie.
What gives? We heard on the radio that Runyan could have been ejected.
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1/8/2007 3:26 PM
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I couldn't agree more about New Orleans getting all of the calls next week. In fact, I was talking about this during the ride home last night. After watching two games vs. the Giants where the Eagles were brutalized by the officials, I think someone does not want this team to win. I don't think it's necessarily the NFL that's doing this, but someone is playing favorites, and they don't appear to be fond of the Eagles.
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1/8/2007 3:31 PM
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Wilma OWNS the officials.
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1/8/2007 3:32 PM
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Yeah, I watched it, but when two games earlier the refs invented a rule to give the Colts the ball and possibly the game it seems pretty inconsistent that the Steelers were the darlings of the NFL last year and the league told the refs to help them win.
The better team on the field that day wins most of the time. Blaming it on the refs is a lame excuse for you not getting it done, and the calls usually even out anyway.
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1/8/2007 3:37 PM
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TC,
From memory:
Eagles ball carrier (LJ?) is tackled by two Giants, with one standing up and approaching the pile. Play looks dead. Some say that LJ is punched in the back, but I haven't seen that yet. Anyway, Runyam coming racing over and lays a good hit on the Giant standing up. Then some skinny DB races up into Runyan's face, Runyan gives a shove, and the smaller man goes down. Upon that, someone shoves Runyam and he falls backward to the turf.
Because of the last shove, it's offsetting penalties. Very lucky, really, or the 1st down counts and it's 1st and 25. Runyan later says it was momentum that carried him into the guy. I don't think many people buy that. He also says that lately the plays aren't whistled dead and he was trying to hit the pile and drive his man forward, thinking that the Giants were standing the ballcarrier up to strip him. That sounds a little more plausable, at least. My bet is on a combo of that, plus some attitude from seeing some horrible non-calls on the linesman for most of the game after the snap.
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1/8/2007 3:51 PM
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The better team on the field that day wins most of the time. Blaming it on the refs is a lame excuse for you not getting it done, and the calls usually even out anyway.
My philosophy is about the same, but teams do get hosed every week. If you didn't play well enough to overcome 1 or 2 shifty penalties, you probably didn't do enough to win.
However, The Eagles have been getting hosed on offense ALL YEAR. Both of the QB's have taken a lot of shots that haven't been flagged. The WRs barely draw any flags, either. I swear you can cough on a QB or WR and get a flag these days, but if you have wings on your helmet this year, you're fair game.
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1/8/2007 4:00 PM
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PI is definitely the least "scientific" of all penalites football, and it also has the potential to be the most influential on the outcome of the game.
f-d, maybe this is triggered by the no-call on the deep ball to Reggie Brown. Aikman said it himself, there was no call because the DB had his head turned towards the ball.
That's what matters most, it seems. In the refs eyes, contact while you're playing the ball can be attributed to arms and legs swinging. When you're not looking at the opponent, how are you supposed to avoid him (in the refs eyes, again).
Anyway, if I could make one rule change in the NFL, it would be to make pass interference a challengeable call.
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Let's not start whining about the officials. You're sounding like Steeler fans here. ALL teams have bad calls go against them. I don't buy that the Eagles are getting screwed any more than anyone else.
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1/8/2007 4:17 PM
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I live in NYC and work in the shadows of Giants Stadium. Of the six people I sit with, including myself, two are Giants season ticket holders.
They are complaining about the officiating going against the Giants just as some here are complaining about it going against the Eagles. Seems like if both sides are angry about it, it was pretty even to me.
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1/8/2007 4:18 PM
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that made it sound like I am a Giants STH, which I am not.
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Yeah, I watched it, but when two games earlier the refs invented a rule to give the Colts the ball and possibly the game it seems pretty inconsistent that the Steelers were the darlings of the NFL last year and the league told the refs to help them win.
Okay, fine. But why did the refs "(invent) a rule to give the Colts the ball and possibly the game"? That was one of, if not the most obvious bad call in league history. Do you think the refs made that call because:
A) It might be fun.
B) Someone wanted the Colts to win.
C) They actually thought that if they invented a rule, no one would notice.
I hear what you are saying about the flaw with the conspiracy theory when the Steelers were screwed against the Colts and then saved in the Super Bowl. I thought the same thing at the time. I'm no fan of conspiracy theories, and I have a hard time believing that the NFL picks the winners beforehand, but I do think it is possible that someone is attempting to decide the outcome of certain games. There have been so many lopsided, obvious blown calls as of late that it's hard to ignore this stuff. And last year, it's entirely possible that someone wanted the Steelers to lose against the Colts, but after the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl, someone wanted the Steelers to win.
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I'm not saying "the refs are out to get the Eagles" or anything. I think things even out over time and over years. I just think this year, the Eagles are getting the short end of the stick on those judgment calls. I can't back that up with numbers, either, but that's just the feel I get.
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1/8/2007 4:36 PM
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f-d, maybe this is triggered by the no-call on the deep ball to Reggie Brown. Aikman said it himself, there was no call because the DB had his head turned towards the ball.
I think that's what it was, but that seems like the "With all due respect" philosophy Ricky Bobby had.
If you can stink finger a WR and look into the sky for a pardon, it's kinda like saying "With all due respect, you're a cockface" (getting away with it because "with all due respect" proceeded it).
On the Roughing calls, I've felt like McNabb and Garcia were taking late hits all year and not getting calls. It seemed so odd considering how overprotecting refs seem to be with QBs.
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1/8/2007 4:40 PM
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f-d, maybe this is triggered by the no-call on the deep ball to Reggie Brown. Aikman said it himself, there was no call because the DB had his head turned towards the ball.
Of all the calls in that game, I take very little issue with that one. Fair non-call. The facemasks and holding were far, far worse.
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