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Chicago -2.5 New Orleans
Over/Under 43

Indianapolis -3 New England
Over/Under 47.5

Forecasted weather for Chicago on Sunday is 33 and possible snow showers, but nothing brutal.

I don't expect the Saints to run they ball as well they did against our grandmothers, but I think they'll have enough on offense. I flipped a coin to see what kind of game Grossman is going to have. Good=heads, bad=tails. Tails. Saints by 6. I also think the under is a lock.

I just think it's the Colts playoff year. I hate that it might be, but a) they've flown under the radar for the most part b) have won without NEAG's boy doing anything spectacular, and c) he's due. Don't like betting against Brady and Belichick, as previously discussed, but their run has to end sometime, doesn't it? Colts by 7, and I like the over.

Interesting stat:

Tom Brady is 10-0 in a dome.

There's still football?

Chicago wins. New England wins. Super Bowl:

Patriots 46
Bears 10

Revenge is a dish best served cold...

Gimme both road dogs, over for the Saints, under for the Pats.

I too am leaning towards the New Orleans Poor Victimized Great Stories and the Over in the 1st game.

New Orleans' history of losing vs. Chicago's history of choking with this coaching staff?

This has the feeling of the 2002 NFC title game.

And I'll take Indy - this team feels different, almost like they're winning to spite Manning. But if the game is close in the 4th, Brady and Co. take it.

Brady = $$$ in the bank

Seems like everybody wants the Saints but think Da Bears some how manage to win this

Ahhhh, Id love to believe it were possible man, but methinks that im far too jaded at this point...the fix, as dey say, is in, holmie.

ARGH! MAKE IT STOP!!

From the Chicago Sun Times:


"Rather, this is a time when everybody,...should acknowledge the Bears are merely the other guys in a much larger human drama that finds America rooting hard for the fairy tale.
I'm not asking him or anyone else in these parts to pull for the New Orleans Saints. I just want Bears fans to recognize the Saints as more than a football team. They are the symbol of a region that is still devastated from the irreparable wreckage of Hurricane Katrina, a team that can bring temporary joy and escape to a town but can't begin to change the sobering reality that the murder rate is staggering, half the population has fled and those who remain wonder whether they also should leave. People want New Orleans to feel good Sunday, which somehow makes the Bears the biggest bad guys out of this city since Al Capone." - Jay Mariotti

You gotta be kiddin me...



By Eric Neel
Page 2

"You've got to love the Saints right now, improbably, impossibly, poised on the brink of the Super Bowl just sixteen months after Hurricane Katrina ravaged the Gulf Coast. If they should actually hoist the Lombardi Trophy come February, they would be -- bar none -- the greatest story in Super Bowl history. Never have a team and its triumphs meant more to a place and its people. Never has a city needed a championship more. Never has the old line about sports being an escape and a relief felt more legitimate and true.

But if they do this thing (and god I hope they do this thing), let's not confuse the Super Bowl story with the real story, with the whole story. A Saints win is a beautiful thing, a soul-stirring bolt of good news in a world that's had so much of the bad this last year-and-a-half, and we ought to be longing for it, and we ought to revel in it if Brees, Bush, McAllister and the football gods can actually deliver it. But a win in XLI, sweet as it would be, won't mean New Orleans is back, won't mean we can or should stop thinking about and empathizing with folks down in the Bayou who are working to reclaim their lives."

I can't argue with Eric Neel there, Seth.

Superbowls won't change anything really.

Throughout Saints-mania, a voice of insight.

He's right that in the overall picture, things are still jacked up down there and a SB doesn't change that.

Boy, I really hope both road teams win on Sunday, so I can spend the next two weeks hearing about the "Dynasty vs. Destiny" Super Bowl.

No CRAP nothin changes! Thats the whole effin point i have been makin for TWO WKS NOW- thats HALF the reason i pasted that, BUT THE MAIN THING IS HOW YET ANOTHER MEDIA "SHEEP" HAS FALLEN FOR THE WHOLE "IM ROOTIN FOR THEM" ANGLE.


If it aint goin to help squat, and you have a sincere love of the game of football- then HOW can anyone thinking themselves INTELLIGENT fall in line and just 'root for the story"?

Nobody felt that way when NYC got drilled in the mouth by Bin Laden! And in the 911 tragedy, NONE of the victims had a CHOICE.

In N.O,- PLLLLLLLLENTY of those mental seat cusions had ample op. to leave. But no- they stayed.
THIS is who we heap undying and unfounded backing to?

There are varrying degrees of victims.

911 people- killed for GOING TO WORK (Not the same thing in Katrina's Playground, to be sure)- TOTAL VICTIMS.

New Orleans? Those who didnt and HAD A CHOICE (NOT ALL, BUT there were a large #, not everyone had "no recourse")- im sorry, not on par with those given no choices.

Im just sick of this , ahem, muddying the waters of what should be something entirely separate- PRO FOOTBALL.

WFC.

NOW it feels like a Friday.

I still get misty eyed just thinking about all the members of the Saints staying in the city when the flood waters hit, just clinging to telephone polls and trees while throwing the ball back and forth to stay sharp, then lifting refrigerators and pushing cars like blocking sleds in their own makeshift Saints street gym. How each and every one of them stayed in town the whole time, despite their money and influence and chance to work out and/or live somewhere safer.

And now all that hard work and dedication is going to pay off with a big sloppy SB victory.

Well played 'Robi.

I am cheering for the Saints but not for any feel good story. I personally thought that many aspects of Katrina WAS the feel-good story.


I am cheering for the Saints because when any Chicago team wins a Championship their fans, much like the New York brethren, start to think that that particular team was the greatest of all time or something and talk incessantly about it.


So F them. Geaux Saints.

That's so mamby pamby it's ridiculous.

If you embraced Katrina as a kinda
"whoops, gimmie some papertowels-gettin kinda messin over here" clean up move by ___(insert your deity here)___ as you allude to, then you're a Bears fan Sunday.

when any Chicago team wins a Championship their fans, much like the New York brethren, start to think that that particular team was the greatest of all time or something and talk incessantly about it.

That sort of behavior has Boston/Patriots fan written ALL over it. I think I've seen about 200 documentaries on the 2004 Red Sox.

Don't gimme that displacement bullshit, ENY. If you were around in 1986 you'd know what I was talking about. I hated that damn team with a passion.

"911 people- killed for GOING TO WORK (Not the same thing in Katrina's Playground, to be sure)- TOTAL VICTIMS.

New Orleans? Those who didnt and HAD A CHOICE (NOT ALL, BUT there were a large #, not everyone had "no recourse")- im sorry, not on par with those given no choices."

um...OK. I know it's Friday and all, but Seth, you do realize that there were a whole helluva lotta more victims of Katrina than 9/11, right? I'm not talking about the dopes who stayed during the storm. I'm talking about the HUGE amount of folks who evacuated, later returning to find out they had lost everything. EVERYTHING.

There are a large number of those people.

Just sayin.

dino pretty much stole my thunder on that one.

seth, i agree with pretty much everything you said about the bullshit of rooting for the saints because of the "feel good" aspect of it, as well as how that angle has nauseatingly and predictably been beaten to death by the media. i could give a fuck about the saints and am greatly wishing to see them lose for that very reason.

that said, your implication that the tragedy of katrina was somehow less than that that of 9/11 because, to paraphrase, they "shoudna' been there in the first place" is ridiculous and completely misses the point.

as dino said, katrina wasn't just about some morons floating on sofa cushions and clogging up toilets at the superdome because they failed to evacuate - it was about the destruction of an american city and shocking failure of our government to handle the situation.

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