EagleNY

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1/24/2007 10:09 AM




This is where I gotta plug DirecTV, again. They've got NFL Network, as well as an NBA stats channel and a stat-tracker that comes with the MLB Extra Innings. You'll never need to watch SportsCenter again-- unless you really need to wake up looking at Chris McKendry.




GlennGoBlue

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1/24/2007 10:09 AM




I kinda like Chris McKendry, she is a positive for ESPN.




SeeZakRun

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1/24/2007 10:28 AM




This is where I gotta plug DirecTV, again.

No CSN = no dice. Otherwise I'd be all over it.




Johnson

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1/24/2007 10:36 AM




Most times I only stay on ESPN if I'm passing by the channel and one of their promotional commercials are on. Once they get back to SportsCenter or whatever, I move on.

Since the NFL network, the only time I intentionally turn ESPN on is in the early morning to check the Bottomline stats from the previous night's game for Fantasy Football purposes.

After that... the network is useless to me. Especially from the second week of February through the last weekend in April.




f-dallas

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1/24/2007 10:41 AM




I haven't watched sportscenter in probably 8 years.

I DID always like ESPN News during fantasy baseball season, but when I moved to the Lehigh Valley area, I found out they didn;t offer it...which was just freakin' weird.

However, as of a couple weeks ago, they finally aded it to the cable package. Only 15 years behind the curve, RCN. Nice works as always.




Buddy Ryan in 2008

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1/24/2007 11:41 AM




I like Mike & Mike and that's all. It's to the point where I try to avoid ESPN as best as possible.




julamy

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1/24/2007 7:54 PM




G. Cobb weighs in:

MCNABB STORY IS OVERBLOWN BECAUSE IT'S MCNABB

I talked to a source close to Donovan McNabb yesterday and mentioned the article by Mark Eckel in the Trenton Times and there was immediate laughter. In fact, I was told, "Donovan was anxiously looking forward to getting back on the football field and proving he's still one of the game's best quarterbacks". The source said there was no truth to him being upset or troubled about anything. I was told that this whole thing is about nothing and that McNabb wasn't even aware of anything being wrong.

I must admit that I find it hard to believe that McNabb would be concerned about being backed up by a quarterback who doesn't even have an arm strong enough to break a window pane with a rock standing from point blank range. Anyway, didn't I hear Andy Reid say that the Eagles were Donovan McNabb's team last week?
I know Mark Eckel is a credible reporter and he's not the kind who would make something up, but his article is part reporting and part commentary, just like what you're reading. Eckel wrote that, "McNabb may also be getting a vibe that some in the organization prefer Garcia over him". This is the opinion of this source or Mark's but is that news. (McNabb may) is not a quote but an opinion. I could write that Jeff Garcia may be unstable because of the way he was crying after losing to the Saints. That would be an opinion and a stupid one. This has turned into national news because somebody wrote McNabb may. If he wrote McNabb is getting the vibe that some in the organization prefer Garcia over him then that would be news, especially if accompanied by the source's statements corroborating it. A number of newspapers took Mark's opinion and put up on the top of the story like that opinion was fact. I didn't see one quote of the source saying McNabb felt the organization preferred Garcia over him.

As far as I'm concerned, all of the talk about Donovan being insecure about Jeff Garcia's success is overblown. This is the reason I thought it was foolish of Andy Reid to cancel Donovan McNabb's news conference last week, because now media persons can write the story themselves. Everybody knows it's a slow sports news time in Philly with the Sixers and Flyers both stinking to high heaven, so you know any comments about McNabb are big news.

Why don't any of the reporters ever try to get gossip and stuff on the other Eagles players? If I go in the Eagles lockeroom I run into things that might be considered good gossip but I don't normally mention it unless I think it's really newsworthy.

Here's an example. On the day after the Eagles were eliminated by the Saints, one of the Eagles defensive players approached me in the lockeroom after he had viewed the video of the game, and started talking about how he thought Jeremiah Trotter played terribly in the game. He told he thought Jeremiah was a backstabber because he said the defensive line was too small to stop the run, even though, he Trotter, wasn't doing anything to stop it. The player also told me he didn't appreciate the comments by Trotter earlier in the season about looking into the eyes of the other defensive players and not seeing any life.

This conversation made me go back and look at the Saints video and focus on Trotter and I must admit, the other player was right. He didn't play well in fact most of Sean Payton's attack was aimed at him, the supposed Eagles All-Pro middle linebacker. Also I did have to admit that coming out in the middle of the season and saying your defensive line is too small would be regarded as backstabbing when I played. Also the comment about not seeing life in the eyes of your teammates would be regarded as backstabbing. In fact when I played you'd better get ready for a fight, if you made those comments about your teammates. RAY DIDINGER SAID LAST SATURDAY THAT HE DIDN'T THINK THE EAGLES WOULD INVITE TROTTER BACK THIS YEAR. Why would he say something like that? I haven't read any of the other guys who cover the Eagles mention much about Trotter's struggles.

Jeremiah Trotter gets a pass here in Philly as do nearly everybody else on the team. If Donovan McNabb had said my receivers are too slow or too small or the offensive line isn't good enough he would be called on the carpet, but Trotter can say things without accountability. That's the problem I have with the Philly sports media. Why wouldn't any of the writers in town ask other players how they felt about Trotter saying the defensive line was too small or he didn't see any life in the eyes of the defensive players? Reporters don't stir up controversy unless it's McNabb.

I must admit if I hadn't been approached by the Eagles player and then checked out the treatment of McNabb I wouldn't have even mentioned this conversation or made a big deal about it.

Would it have been overlooked if Donovan McNabb had started crying like a little girl after the Eagles lost to the Saints, the way Jeff Garcia did? He was on ESPN just crying, uncontrollably. Yes a grown man here crying like that after a loss in front of a tough town like Philly. Could you imagine what would have been written and said if McNabb had started crying like that after a loss? There is no doubt that the treatment is different.

The thing that has gotten me outraged is how the sports media goes after McNabb about lesser things. They parse his every word but what gives Trotter and Garcia a pass. I hope they start putting all the other big names on the team under the same microscope.




slapshot

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1/24/2007 9:25 PM




GGB, thanks for welcoming me to 2001 (I still preferred 1989, THAT was a good year).

FWIW, Sports Center is part of my 11 yr old son's morning ritual (which is the mentality of their target audience).




Seth in 736

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1/24/2007 10:26 PM




still preferred 1989,... - SS



Great yr for music. Absolutely.




f-dallas

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1/24/2007 10:34 PM




Would it have been overlooked if Donovan McNabb had started crying like a little girl after the Eagles lost to the Saints, the way Jeff Garcia did?

NTFF. It's just one big hatefest in Philly.

If they aren't trashing McNabb, they are trashing everyone else to make their point.




Seth in 736

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1/24/2007 10:46 PM




I beleive Cobb when he says he wouldnt have mentioned this whole thing had he a) not been approached and more importantly in light of recent events- juxtaposed IT with the latest McNabb McBashing.

I find no issue with the points raised by Cobb in that well expressed OPINION Based pc.




TheTalon

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1/25/2007 12:34 AM




Was Garcia really crying like a baby on ESPN? I missed that one.

If that's true, it proves Cobb's point because I didn't see a big deal made about it.




julamy

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1/25/2007 8:23 AM




Before I read the G. Cobb piece I had heard from friends that they saw Garcia looking a little misty after the game, but I didn't see it with my own eyes.

I wonder which player called out Trotter.




bassiladelph

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1/25/2007 8:26 AM




I wonder who was the defensive player that came up to him and told him about Trotter...




SeeZakRun

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1/25/2007 8:35 AM




Garcia was definitely crying. Not in the post-game PC, but afterwards.




f-dallas

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1/25/2007 8:42 AM




I find no issue with the points raised by Cobb in that well expressed OPINION Based pc.

I understand the point he's trying to make and I've been making it for years, but I just found it funny that he said Garcia was "crying like a little girl"...HA!

On Trot, I'd bet Walker was Cobb's source. He's been on a mission to prove everything isn't his fault this year.




Seth in 736

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1/25/2007 8:50 AM




It was absolutely, without question, Darwin Walker.

This is apparently not the 1st time that they've not seen things in the same light.

Take that FWIW.




TheHulk_NJ

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1/25/2007 8:56 AM




I'll bet my paycheck with Vegas Vinny odds it was Walker also. He has been getting killed all year and any chance he gets to deflect some heat or take a shot he will.




bassiladelph

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1/25/2007 9:28 AM




If they aren't trashing McNabb, they are trashing everyone else to make their point.

So true.

Yeah, Walker was really quick to defend himself, especially after Hugh took him to the woodshed on WIP (for entertainment purposes only). Even if Hugh was proven wrong. Just didn't really appreciate Walker's one man crusade to prove his innocence, like this one armed man was the one missing tackles instead.

And when else have they not seen things eye to eye, Seth?




Johnson

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1/25/2007 10:39 AM




The footage of Garcia's tearfest was on the news the following day (may have even been Monday).

I'll cast my vote for Walker as well.

"Reporters don't stir up controversy unless it's McNabb."

As for this comment... Well if one player is pulling down a base salary of 5.5 million in a season and the other is pulling down 1.7 million... clearly one player has more importance to the team and thus their comments or actions are more newsworthy in a society that worships the dollar.




bassiladelph

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1/25/2007 10:49 AM




Also wonder why he's surprised in a market where the QB is generally not appreciated unless he goes 16-0 and plays CB.

But there's no real need to even single out Trotter - everyone with a brain knows that his best days are long behind him and that they need to get serious about drafting a replacement; of course, not much is made of what Trot has to do to even get himself ready for a game.




Johnson

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1/25/2007 10:53 AM




"they need to get serious about drafting a replacement"

Unfortunately I think they believe Gaither is the answer there. I could be wrong.




silver_n_blue

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1/25/2007 11:09 AM




...wow, other teams have in house issues also?




flesh4fantasy

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1/25/2007 11:32 AM




...wow, other teams have in house issues also?

ya mean like hiring an offensive coordinator before you hire a head coach?




f-dallas

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1/26/2007 9:39 AM




The next wave has arrived:

Sal Pal, on WIP this morning said:

"I've spoken to people close to McNabb and I believe there is some truth to the fact that some things upset him this past year. The source also said McNabb believe either he or Garcia will be playing in Tampa next year".

McNabb must have the shittiest friends on the planet if they just go around making contact with every Philly media whore and spilling tall his deepest, darkest secrets.

I thought he would have made everyone in his entourage sign a waiver declaring they will "keep their moufs shut" unless it's to "do him a verbal kindness". Also, no "showing out" in public or making "eye contact" with the "Dear Leader".




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