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It seems as though some folks in the media would like people to believe a large chunk of the fanbase has soured on McNabb so much that they'd prefer Garcia as the starter next year. I don't think this is true. I believe that those who truly prefer Garcia are in a very small minority, where the wide-eyed roam free.

So, I ask you, if everyone were able to start the season in perfect health, with signed contracts in place, who do you want as the Eagles starting quarterback?

My answer is McNabb, plain and simple. Despite his many irritating qualities, this guy still has phenomenal athletic ability, and if the start of this season was any indication, he is more than capable of putting up a lot of points in this offense. He just needs Reid/Mornhinweg to give him some decent, more balanced playcalling. He also could use a speedy receiver (like Stallworth), but I won't hold my breath. The biggest knock against him was his refusal to run out of fear of being labeled a black quarterback, but I don't think running will be much of an option for him in his 30s with his injury history. That point will be moot.

McNabb, for all the same reason that Talon outlined.

McNabb for Football.

Feeley if he shaves his legs.

Garcia if he lets me shave Carmella's legs.

This is a silly question.

McNabb.

If trading McNabb and going with Garcia/AJ would be better for the Eagles long term future (say McNabb really was angry with the organization, his teamates didn't like him, and they could get a high first round pick that would net them their QB of the future), I wouldn't be against it even though I'm a McNabb fan.

However, I'm not convinced there is a crisis at the Novacare complex, I think he teamates do like him, and I don't think the Eagles are going to get a top 5 pick.

No matter how you slice it, McNabb is the man for the job.

No brainer.

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Give me McNabb with the balanced playcalling Garcia got through the last 8 weeks of the season.

Other than the stereotypical WIP listening Philadelphia idiot, is there anyone who would truthfully and unbiased not pick McNabb?

On that topic, F-D...

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Honest to God, the Eagles would have to strongly consider taking that deal, wouldn't they?

Maybe they hate Quinn (I don't know what I even think of him), but if they like Quinn...wouldn't that be a deal you'd have to make?

It has to be McNabb based on the money he is making. Plus, he's a leader, his teammates love him (doesn't everyone at your work love the guy who makes the most money?), he's a leader, he's taken them to the playoffs time and again, and he's a leader.

I'm not sold on Quinn. Too many Eli-like tendencies.

But yeah, it's always tough to turn down a top-5 pick like that. Especially with a readily available alternative (using Garcia to start/mentor Quinn/Russell/whoever they'd take.)

"Philadelphia's notoriously fickle fans"

Fickle = supporting the team through the Rich Kotite mess? Through 3-13 under Ray-Bob?

I love these Guys who do a half-assed job. I'm surprised he didn't manage to work in the Snowballs at Santa angle. You remember that. It's when 54,000+ "fickle" fans came out in the snow to support a 2-11 team.

Or when they didn't sell out a playoff game or the season opener wasn't on TV. But we've been though that before.

"Knowledgeable, passionate, and loyal"

"Maybe they hate Quinn (I don't know what I even think of him), but if they like Quinn...wouldn't that be a deal you'd have to make?"

If Quinn were from BYU the deal would be done by now.

One thing Reid has shown is that he doesn't need a first round pick to run his offense efficiently. The window of opportunity is closing for this team... can they really afford another 4-5 year maturation process at QB?

Their best option is to stick with McNabb (he's still in his prime despite injuries) and spend a mid range pick on a QB prospect to groom.

One thing Reid has shown is that he doesn't need a first round pick to run his offense efficiently. The window of opportunity is closing for this team... can they really afford another 4-5 year maturation process at QB?

That's the thing, though. They've proven they can win with Garcia and they've proven they can win with a "franchise QB" still learning (with McNabb going to the playoffs in his first full season).

If they could deal McNabb for Quinn (and again, this jhinges on the Eagls liking Quinn and Detroit being dumb enough to make the deal), they would essentially have the best of both worlds...winning now, while setting themselves up for 2 or 3 years from now.

going with the masses, i'll also say mcnabb with a balanced attack.

i still believe that mcnabb is not ideally suited to a west-coast style offense - while he certainly can put up points in it, he is relatively inaccurate on short and intermediate balls and sometimes unable/unwilling to get the ball out quickly or just run for it - leading to a lot of three and outs. those abilities are what made garcia successful this year despite his glaring lack of arm strength. its also vital, of course, from the perpective of the defensive, particularly one that is small and wears out quickly when they're on the field for 35 minutes a game. its not coincidence that the team as a whole was more effective with garcia at the helm despite the fact that he threw for less yards and the offense actually scored fewer points per game than they did with mccnabb.

that said, i am really curious to see what mcnabb can do with a balanced attack that showcases westbrook, maximizes the abilities of the eagles' excellent o-line and takes some of the short-yardage pressure off of him.

Couple final thoughts on McNabb to Detroit for Quinn... don't the Raiders hold the first pick and supposedly covet Brady Quinn?

Also, does anyone here (besides DGB) think McNabb is worth the second overall pick in this draft?

Finally and perhaps most importantly, should this ridiculous scenario play out as we have discussed... how much will Roy Williams fantasy value skyrocket?

Supposably the Raiders crave that guy from LSU (I believe).

Everything out there says the Raiders want Jamarcus Russell.

Evertyhing else you said is spot on. I don't think McNabb is worth the #2 overall pick in trade. I think most teams would rather have "the future" than a 30 year old QB coming off an ACL, etc.

The 2 factors that could potentially swing that are: Detroit's resounding failure with Harrington (and QBs in general) and the fact that McNabb makes them an instant contender. He would electrify that city immediatly, while Quion would likely be a question mark for a couple years.

I think it's highly, highly, highly unlikely a deal like this would happen. Going off that article, though, I was simply saying "Wouldn't the Eagles have to take that deal", basically.

And McNabb is easily worth more than the #2 pick. He was heading towards MVP-type #s, but with a balanced offense, he could be that much better.

Are you serious?

The way teams covet picks (particularly top 5 picks), I don't think McNabb would meet that criteria.

are you guys for real? why talk so much nonsense. mcnabb is the man..no ifs, ands, buts about it. by the way, "you decide"? wtf! are we part of the management team? will our choices will be heard by banner. lmao..nonsense....get to work people and stop imagining we have something to do with this team. let's go make our $12.50/hr and spend it going to games and making the eagles money.

That's the thing, though. They've proven they can win with Garcia and they've proven they can win with a "franchise QB" still learning (with McNabb going to the playoffs in his first full season).

and that, folks, it the giant irony of the reid era. the entire franchise was built and marketed around this one untouchable player as the cornerstone of the team, and yet the eagles strength has proven to be the ability of the team to compete at a high level with back-ups or an unseasoned "franchise" guy. thats what makes all these arguments about how good mcnabb is - "the offense was ranked #1 with him in there", "he's still a top 5 qb in this league" - moot. in fact, that's what i thought the whole point of reid's vaunted offense was - that if you have capable, if not extraordinary, players at the skill positions that know their job (and a stong line), the offense should run optimally. you just don't need a huge-armed, super athletic guy behind center.

(in a reverse irony, the position that the team seems to value least, linebacker, is always the one that seems to hold this team back and when a mid-season switch is made (trotter, gathier), the effect on the team is huge.)

FD,

If it's a str8 up McNabb for #2 trade, I wouldn't do it, only because the team has other needs, and if I'm saying goodbye to my franchise QB, I gotta have more in return. Not saying McNabb alone nets you everything you need, but if you're going to straddle the fence by signing Garcia (who wants to win now) and getting a young guy in there to learn from him for the future, then you need to shore up other spots so that the opportunity you have now isn't wasted.

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