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That's what the rest of the draft is for, if you go down that road. Those other needs exist whether you trade McNabb or not, so the thought is if you deal him and replace him with the "QB of the Future", you still have 3 more picks on the first day to address needs.

Of course, why would you want to trade a franchise QB still in his prime?

i'd like to pose an alternative version of the original question: the year is 1999. with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, do you choose mccnabb in the draft, or do you sign an unknown, 28-year-old cfl qb named jeff garcia as your starter?

fairly evaluating their strengths and weaknesses and the eagles teams of the last seven years, i believe the eagles would have had a better chance at a superbowl victory with garcia.

By the way, did anyone get less out of their first 5 picks this year?

- Bunkley
- Justice
- Gocong
- Avant
- Bloom

They got a total of 23 games played, 9 tackles, and 5 catches out of the total group. For a team that refuses to paricipate in free agency, they better start drafting a little better.

That's got to be the most putrid production in the league for the first 5 or so guys.

Of course, why would you want to trade a franchise QB still in his prime?

Like I said initially, it depends on a few things. If McNabb really is upet with the organization, if his teamates really don't like him, and if Reid really doesn't trust him anymore for any reason.

That's got to be the most putrid production in the league for the first 5 or so guys.

three out of those five guys really weren't expected to contribute at all last season. i'm not necessarily agreeing with their draft strategy, but except for bunk, i don't think the eagles are all that shocked or dissappointed at the way things played out.

I'm not sold on Quinn as a stud NFL QB. He put up some great numbers but he won very few, if any, 'big' games....lost to USC every year and didn't win a bowl game.

i'm not necessarily agreeing with their draft strategy, but except for bunk, i don't think the eagles are all that shocked or dissappointed at the way things played out.

And that's what disappoints me, especially considering other players that have stepped in other teams, like Ngota.

I mean, BAskett was an UDFA trade and he's shown more production than Avant. There's got to be at least a little disappointment there.

I'm not sold on Quinn as a stud NFL QB.

Agree 100% - this kid's gonna flop, I can feel it.

three out of those five guys really weren't expected to contribute at all last season. i'm not necessarily agreeing with their draft strategy, but except for bunk, i don't think the eagles are all that shocked or dissappointed at the way things played out.
I also forgot about Jean-Gilles in the 4th round, who wasn't activated for a game this year.

No, I get that. When you look at the teams around the league that are successful, they all relied heavily on rookie players stepping right in.

The only pick that really had me scratching my head was Gocong (because he's such a huge question mark coming from a AA school AND changign positions), but can you really afford to take "project" picks with 3 of your first 6 selections, guaranteed backups with 2 of the remaining 3, and only take 1 guy who think may be able to help you right away when you've skipped free agency and only won 6 games the previous season?

I think they got great value with all their picks last year, but if they wouldn't have been able to steal Stallworth just 2 weeks before the season started, they would have been starting an undrafted rookie at WR next to a 2nd year player at the other WR spot in an offense that throws the ball 75% of the time in the first half.

I just think they have to make a concerted effort to start looking at more NFL ready prospects this season. With the salary cap and free agency the way it is right now, the only way to get a wave of talent on your team without paying TONS of money for the average players that hit the FA market is to draft players who can step in right away and contribute.

Agree 100% - this kid's gonna flop, I can feel it.

Very possible. I have probably watched him play 6 games in his career, so I'm not exactly a certified expert on his future.

I mean, BAskett was an UDFA trade and he's shown more production than Avant. There's got to be at least a little disappointment there.

no doubt, and i'm not saying the eagles are doing backflips over the returns of their 2006 draft class. i'm just saying they really weren't counting on any meaningful contributions this past year (except, obviously, for bunk, and heckert basically blamed his lack of production on his hold-out, not a mistake on the FO's part).

f-d, i'm with you - i just think your post should have said "they better start changing their draft strategy" instead of "they better start drafting better" (again, not saying they are doing a great job drafting, but the crux of your argument seemed to be the lack of nfl-ready players, not their eventual potential)

subtle but important distinction.

I don't disagree. It's just frutsrating that from FA, to the draft, to trades, to their entire philosophy, they've been on a 5 year plan for 9 years with a lot of success. However, they haven't really improved on a finish since year 3.

At some point you have to say "We'll deal with the 2010 salary cap when it comes, but we need "X" now if we want to win.

That would require favoring NOW over later.

At some point you have to say "We'll deal with the 2010 salary cap when it comes, but we need "X" now if we want to win.

as we are all painfully aware, there are about 7,253 reasons why they will never say that. one of those reasons as it pertains to the discussion at hand is their belief that their schemes are too complex to grasp for most first year players anyway, so why not get better value by going with projects with a higher "upside" since their not going to contribute right away anyway?

maybe more importantly, they never see any real glaring holes in the team, so they feel no urgency for immediate impact players.

but we've been through all this.

The guys at work were just grilling me about this yesterday. They said that Kornheiser was bashing Eagles fans for being stupid and wanting Jeff garcia to start at QB. I informed them that that is a vast MINORITY of people, unfortunately, they are the majority of callers to talk radio. To answer the question, McNabb (as stated many times previously) with a balanced attack.

I agree with Quinn being a potential disappointment in the NFL. I don't see him as a Ryan Leaf bust, but more of a Tim Couch type disappointment.

The Sixers trade away Iverson and some of you guys start thinking that the Eagles can be better off in the long run by trading McNabb? Who's next out of town, dudes, Ryan Howard?

Gimme a break, and McNabb with balanced play-calling...so what's the tally to this point?

I'm not saying they should trade McNabb, but this is a completely different situation than with the Sixers.

I love how an opinion piece is now going to be turned into a rumor/headline story: "McNabb to Detroit?" Dafuckouttahere.

If they'd throw in Ernie Sims and a 2nd rounder I MIGHT consider it.

If Philly is looking to the future, then Philly should keep McNabb and draft Drew Stanton from Michigan State, he's better than Brady Quiff, imo.

If Neckbeard were thrown into this equation, I might have chosen him. Until then, I'll stick with McNabb.

agree on Stanton.

BTW, this story is like the anatomy of a rumor.

We all saw the OPINION piece this morning suggesting the Lions should call the Eagles to see if they would be open to trading McNabb?

By the afternoon, it's "the buzz in Miami" and this is being reported by Michael David Smith on his Super Bowl Blog for AOL Sports:

Donovan McNabb to the Lions for Second Overall Pick?

Donovan McNabb seems like a nice guy. You'd hate to see something like this happen to him. Getting shipped to the Detroit Lions is like getting sent to Leavenworth. But that's the rumor that's being circulated, both in the Ann Arbor News and in Miami during Super Bowl festivities, that the Eagles could send McNabb to the Lions for the second overall pick in the draft, and in turn use that pick for Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn.

McNabb will speak publicly for the first time since his November knee injury today, and he might be asked about the vocal minority of Eagles fans who would like to see him sent packing. We already know McNabb has some gripes. Would the Eagles really want to get rid of him and build the franchise around a rookie?

That seems highly unlikely. The Eagles could be a legitimate Super Bowl contender in 2007, and bringing in a rookie quarterback would be a rebuilding move. The real story here may be how hungry NFL fans are for any kind of information about their teams. The Eagles have been out of it for two weeks, and the Lions have been out of it for six years. Fans of both teams just want to hear something juicy, and McNabb to the Lions definitely fits.
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We're actually getting to watch the BS unfold right before our eyes. Nice.

agree on Stanton.

With the 2nd and 26th overall pick, in this fantasu scenario, you get whatever you want. They could probably take the best player in the draft after Russell and take Stanton with the 26th pick, if they so choose.

We're actually getting to watch the BS unfold right before our eyes. Nice.

This has an eerie, War of the Worlds (the original, not the Scientology beatdown) feel to it.

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