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DaveInSanAntonio
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/6/2007 4:46 PM
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Grossman!
-Dave
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TheTalon
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/6/2007 8:21 PM
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I laugh at the notion of Hasselbeck being better.
I concur. Honestly, what do people see in Hasselbeck. He's serviceable, at best, and he's yet to show some real leadership in the crunch. Look no further than the playoff loss to Chicago, where Seattle had so many chances to win at the end of regulation. Of course, there's also his famous "We want the ball and we're gonna score!" line that was followed by a playoff-ending interception return for a touchdown.
Out of curiosity, you don't think Hoge hates the Eagles?
I think Hoge's "hate" is an act that was written by some scribes at ESPN. They know they have a large Eagles viewership, which is one reason why they employ a Philly reporter and run so many stories on the team, and having a guy come out and openly hate on the Eagles is like feeding red meat to the viewers. People watch because they want to see what stupid shit that dick Hoge will say next.
Plus, it gives Hoge a little give-and-take with Eagles-homer Jaws. (Has Jaws ever picked against the Eagles?) Two and three years ago, Jaws was even dishing some minor hate on the Steelers, and it looked like it was all made-for-TV. I wouldn't trust anything I see on ESPN.
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fågelpojke
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 8:52 AM
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ESPN = WWE
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bassiladelph
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 8:55 AM
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Indeed. Everything on ESPN can be legitimately viewed as fabricated. Besides, the reporters spend so much time trying to be the story themselves that they miss a lot of stuff.
On to other matters, Garcia was signing autographs at the Auto Show yesterday and said that as much as he wants to stay, it is about the money and he wants to get paid. At least he's up front about it.
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Seth in 736
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 9:32 AM
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Further proof that the F.O.'s plan to eradicate any controversey before it happens appears in this quote by Jeffy G, who has likely caught wind of their intent to not re-up him.
"It's tough for me to sit here and say that I'm going to close all doors because there might be something out there that is either going to be interesting to me or force Philadelphia to not just think they can get away with giving me the same thing they gave me this past year," Garcia said.
No big deal, and if they let him sign for huge bucks somewhere else, they know they likely wont hear a fallout from fans, as he's 37, McNabb is due back & Feeley is in house. Im fine with AJ as a #2.
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Johnson
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 9:37 AM
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Well, if he wants to get paid, he's certainly in the wrong town for that.
Now if the Eagles were as smart as they think they are, they would have signed him to a two or three year deal when they brought him in and they'd be in position to get something for him while his value is high.
But they prefer the One year rent-a-player philosophy now, which in the long run benefits the player financially and the team gets nothing upon his exit.
Unless, of course there will be compensatory picks awarded for Garcia and Stallworth that the Birds can then use on draft picks to be deactivated for 16 weeks next season.
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julamy
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 9:48 AM
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Thanks for the recap FD. Peter King has been an avowed McNabb hater since day 1 (I'm almost tempted to e-mail him, but I won't). And it baffles me as to why. We all know his flaws and shortcomings, but Hasselback, Palmer, Brees, Rivers and Bulger ahead of him? Give me a break. Rivers has proved absolutely nothing. Ditto for Palmer, who looks like the real deal BUT HAS YET TO WIN ONE PLAYOFF GAME. Brees is now 2-2 in the playoffs and Bulger, despite his good numbers has been at the helm of a team that has steadily been getting worse each year for the past 4-5 seasons.
As an aside (and this is just me thinking out loud) any interest in Rhodes (or a rested and presumably rejuvenated Marshall Faulk) as free agent signees to be change of pace backs?
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f-dallas
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 9:55 AM
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Unless, of course there will be compensatory picks awarded for Garcia and Stallworth that the Birds can then use on draft picks to be deactivated for 16 weeks next season.
NTFF!
Of course, the non-funny part is that was their plan with Stallworth all along. They dealt Sim and a 4th round pick because Sim was going to be cut and they knew the 4th round pick they gave up in 2007 would become a 4th round compensatory pick in 2008, after losing Stallworth as a FA.
Regarding Garcia, it would be great to have him back but the Eagles don't need him. Eskin has been sayign this for a couple weeks, but they promised AJ the backup job in 2007. They view AJ as their backup QB for the next 8 years (ala Koy). I think the plan with AJ is to make him their career clipboard holder and probably make him the next Koy on special teams, as well.
If they sign Garcia, that plan is gone because AJ will walk after this season.
So they think they have 2 backup QBs capable of helping them. One is 28 or 29 and the other is 37. They have to make a decision between the two (if you believe Eskin). Makes sense to me.
The other aspect of the situation is Garcia's value has been slated at $4 million per season, per the rumors out there. Does anyone want the Eagles paying Garcia roughly the same money as Westbrook?
Garcia would be nice to have back, but isn't important.
Stallworth is the one who will set them back a bit if they stay on this path and decide to let him walk.
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f-dallas
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 9:59 AM
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I think Hoge's "hate" is an act that was written by some scribes at ESPN
I wouldn't doubt that AT ALL. I don't think everyone who "hates" on the Eagles actually walks around all day thinking about how they can "stick it" to the Eagles on TV. I think they are the bad guys in the WWF (per an earlier reference on this page).
They come out, say "Philly Stinks", get their attention via the boos, and go relax in their mansion.
They are playing the role of Eagles haters because they know the Eagles have a large and volatile fan base.
There are certified "haters" for most of the major franchises.
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f-dallas
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 10:01 AM
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Oh, and to be clear...
King isn't an Eagles hater. He's always good to the Eagles and seems to have a healthy respect for Reid and the organization. He HAS disliked McNabb's game from day 1 and disparages him whenever he's given the opportunity.
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NotoriousEAG
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 10:02 AM
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F-dallas are you saying that people say things just to stir up stuff?
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bassiladelph
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 10:04 AM
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Julamy, I would stay away from Faulk. One, because he's past the age of productivity for most backs, and two, because you've already got a Faulk-clone in Westbrook. There might be better interest for Rhodes, but I doubt they're going to change from their back situation, especially since Buck exceeded all expectations this year.
Garcia's gone, if for the simple fact that if he stays, that'll create yet another QB controversy (even though there isn't one). But we'll see what Feeley can do should McNabb not be ready to go for the season opener.
They come out, say "Philly Stinks", get their attention via the boos, and go relax in their mansion.
Really. It's no different than Rowdy Roddy Piper coming into a city, trashing it, and the fans paying to see him again, if only to see him get his comeuppance. There's no difference on ESPN, especially with as many of the unwashed masses who call in and voice their opinions, only adding fuel and confirmation to the nimrods who rile the masses in the first place.
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f-dallas
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 10:09 AM
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F-dallas are you saying that people say things just to stir up stuff?
I know it sounds crazy, but I've got a working theory here...
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TheHulk_NJ
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 10:19 AM
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With all the WWE references being thrown around, there better not be one peep when Uber and I talk about Battlestar Galatica or Star Wars.
Just sayin.
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bassiladelph
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 10:21 AM
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Lego Star Wars, Hulk. That's all I'll say.
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Seth in 736
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 11:30 AM
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Stretch Armstrong Hulk Hogans..
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TheTalon
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 12:32 PM
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McNabb is due back & Feeley is in house. Im fine with AJ as a #2.
As you should be.
Again, I present AJ Feeley's stat-line from Week 17. Working with a second and third string offense and facing a first string defense, he went 22-23 for 321 yards with 3 TDs and NO INTs. He also won the game.
Backup QB is not a position of concern.
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bassiladelph
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 12:49 PM
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Against a dome team waiting for tee times? Meh.
However, that doesn't change my opinion - I'm fine with him as the #2, and I was fine with him before McNabb got injured. His knowledge of the system and the fact that he doesn't completely suck are in his favor.
McNabb might be less happy with that, though...
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bassiladelph
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 12:50 PM
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Besides, we had to shovel Neckbeard as a competent QB for years, so this is like getting a Ritz cracker after years of store-brand saltines.
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NotoriousEAG
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2/7/2007 12:56 PM
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If McKnobb had his druthers, Timmy Kelly would be his backup.
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bassiladelph
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 12:58 PM
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How many nimrods would prefer Rodney Peete right now?
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f-dallas
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 12:59 PM
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Yeah right..,
After the first wormburner, I guarantee you somebody in a a faded Duce Staley jersey spills some of his beer while cupping his hands around hiS mouth to yell: "PUT IN KELLY!1!!!1!///"
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TheTalon
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 1:50 PM
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Against a dome team waiting for tee times? Meh
Sorry, but I'm not buying that argument.
First of all, it wasn't that cold during the game. I believe it was over 40 degrees because it was raining later on that night.
Moreover, the coach's job was on the line. Schaub came in to play and sure as shit, he wanted to not only win but impress. It's not so far-fetched to assume that the rest of the Falcons wouldn't mind beating the team that knocked them out of the playoffs twice. Plus, teams seem to enjoy beating the Eagles in Philly and shutting up the knowledgeable, passionate, and loyal fans.
These guys are professionals. No one wants to lose on the road against second and third stringers who were in a meaningless game. The Falcons may be mediocre, but I'm sure they have pride.
Feeley played his ass off, had some help from Baskett and company, and the team won a tight game. Plain and simple.
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KeithByars
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 1:59 PM
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Coach's job wasn't on the line, b/c Blank already said missing the playoffs was unacceptable, which they knew at the time.
They had given up at that point, that was not a real effort by them.
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bassiladelph
RE: McNabb, Garcia, or Feeley? You decide.
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2/7/2007 2:16 PM
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A good coached team will play until the end of the season, plus I gotta think Feeley wanted to prove that he is a capable #2, especially if what Asskiss says is true.
The Eagles are a well-coached team. The Falcons were not, especially considering homie getting cut before the flight left Philly.
Consider a couple of other things about the mentality of that Atlanta team:
- Vick already went on record saying he wanted to get back home in time for the new year. Not exactly talk coming from someone with something to play for. Especially since they got finished blowing a big game at home 2 weeks prior that had him giving fans the double ATHF salute.
- Mora Jr. was toast as soon as he talked about the U of Washington job. As soon as that became public, he was a lame duck - why would anyone want to play for someone who admitted that he doesn't want to be in Atlanta?
- Even if it was around 40 degrees or so, it's not 75 and warm inside a dome. For schmoes like you and I who aren't bothered, it's nothing, but if you're used to being in a controlled environment, it just adds another log to the fire.
- It would've taken something close to 12 NFL teams folding for the Falcons to make the playoffs, and I think some of the players would rather have had the season end (as abysmal as it became) rather than to keep playing. not to mention the confidence the players had in the coaching staff, when they didn't know that a tie would've put them in the playoffs last year.
Add all that up, and you've got a team going through the motions, having their stuff already packed and on the plane before the game started.
However, this doesn't diminish Feeley's stock in my eyes, as I thought he'd be a competent #2 before the season started. That Atlanta game was just padding his stats, IMO, but it didn't take away from the fact that he's a good backup and, more importantly, knows Reid's system.
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