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Also, let's not forget the "coach-killer" comment from the man who brought you such memorable lines as "PLAYOFFS?!?"

Ive been sayin it for yrs off an on around here- in this system at LEAST- AJ is a FINE QB. FINE.

Nothing wrong with him , CERTAINLY not in a backup capacity.

Get on Board guys, the Carmen Descarre road show's leavin town.

Stallworth won't get much more than a few subdued mentions from the official site. Until the draft hits, in which case the WR taken too high will have a one-line description such as "Good reach, nice sprints, good bubble, plan B if Stallworth leaves?"

I still think the Eagles have zero incentive to make a bid on Stallworth until the open market starts (anyone have a date on that?). Any bid they make is simply the starting point for teams to outbid them, and it saves other teams the trouble of figuring out a first bid. Stallworth is going to wait and hear all offers, regardless. No need to speed that up for the Eagles, and I think that's the company line they'll take.

Garcia is long gone. Thanks again, good luck, tell your current/eventual kids to thank Daddy for the extra money they'll be inheriting.

According to Eskin, who spoke with Stallworth over Super Bowl weekend, he is willing to take less money to return to Philly and made it abundantly clear that he is calling the shots and not Rosenputz. FWIW.

Yeah, I think that was posted here with quotes last wk, sZr. I could be wrong, but recall feeling bolstered about his chances of stayin after hearin t hat.

Thats good stuff.

I don't think the Birds will make an offer good enough to even make him think twice, though. I could be wrong, but that's my opinion.

If they let him walk, they'll lose nothing (with the compensatory pick next year) and if they sign him, they add another BIG contract to the books AND pass on the 3rd round this year, with no compensation later.

I hope they sign him, but I can't imagine they would.

I'm wondering how much smaller an offer Stallworth will take, especially since some teams will back up the Brinks' truck for him, AND it would be against how the Birds view WRs.

They'd lose a 4th rounder since he will hit the UFA market, no?

They'd lose a 4th rounder since he will hit the UFA market, no?

Yeah, but since they'd be "losing a FA" they'd get a compensatory pick for him in the 2008 draft. Based on what Stallworth will get paid, that pick will almost certainly be a 4th round pick.
So basically, leting him walk emans they traded Sim for rent Stallworth for a year. Signing him means a $15 million tiered bonus, Sim, and a 3rd round pick.

That's like the apocolypse for Banner.

- Loses a first day precious.
- Pays a huge bonus to someone they didn't draft/doesn't play on a line.
- Lost an undersized fastball who "works hard".

They had given up at that point, that was not a real effort by them.

Sorry, but that's total bullshit.

I know you're a certified psychologist and can determine 46 guys' collective psyche by watching them play a game on TV, but there was something at stake when that game began. They had a chance to knock a rival down a peg and prevent them from winning the division title. Also, most teams prefer a .500 record over a losing record. Call it a generalization, but few people prefer the title of "loser."

If you question their effort, I guess you didn't watch the fourth quarter when they scored a game-tying touchdown, made it into Eagles' territory on every possession, battled down to the 2 yard line, forced an essential 3-and-out (something the Eagles's defense could not do in a PLAYOFF game), and attempted to tie it on a deep completion on the final play of the game. Those aren't the hallmarks of a team that "had given up."

Vick already went on record saying he wanted to get back home in time for the new year. Not exactly talk coming from someone with something to play for.

Regardless of the fact that he wasn't playing defense against Feeley, Vick was knocked out of the game after the first play of the second half. His attitude, whatever it may have been, was a non-factor.

Even if it was around 40 degrees or so, it's not 75 and warm inside a dome. For schmoes like you and I who aren't bothered, it's nothing, but if you're used to being in a controlled environment, it just adds another log to the fire.

Wait. So guys like you and I are tough enough to handle 40 degree weather, but professional football players who play half their games in a dome can't handle it? Still daydreaming about your Lehigh moment in the sun, huh?

It would've taken something close to 12 NFL teams folding for the Falcons to make the playoffs, and I think some of the players would rather have had the season end (as abysmal as it became) rather than to keep playing.

I've never heard any professional athlete speak of the benefits of losing the last game of the season, and I've never, ever heard of anyone who would rather go home than make the playoffs, even though I believe they were officially eliminated on the day before.

Add all that up, and you've got a team going through the motions, having their stuff already packed and on the plane before the game started.

Like I said, they had something to play for before the game started: knocking the Eagles out of first place in the NFC East. A 24-17 loss where the losing team gets down to the 2-yard line with less than 2 minutes left and still has a chance to tie on the final possession is a far cry from "going through the motions."

You guys might have a point if the Eagles ran away with a victory, but this was still a close game where both teams were trying to win.

Smartass, I don't have to be a psychologist. They exhibited all the signs of a team that gave up, as exhibited by bass's examples. Sorry for looking at evidence

Smartass

Hello, pot. Meet kettle.

They exhibited all the signs of a team that gave up, as exhibited by bass's examples. Sorry for looking at evidence

I apologize for looking at evidence, too. Next time I'll ignore how they actually played the game, and I'll just base my opinion on what I think they were feeling about the situation that surrounded them.

That was a loving "smartass". I thought you knew that by now.

But the evidence is the coach and star player gave up before the game (as bass pointed out, and they team played like crap.

I DO so love the kettle.pot.blah blah thing you see everywhere on the internets, though.

That was a loving "smartass". I thought you knew that by now.

I didn't know you were ready to take things to the next level. Sometimes you send very mixed signals.

You shut me out

eewww

His attitude, whatever it may have been, was a non-factor.

In the second half, sure. But not during the leadup to the game.

I've never heard any professional athlete speak of the benefits of losing the last game of the season, and I've never, ever heard of anyone who would rather go home than make the playoffs, even though I believe they were officially eliminated on the day before.

Because the biggest mistake you can make is if you admit that you don't give your all and try to win all the time. Even if you don't give 100% all the time (and who does in the league?), the mere suggestion of the thought is taboo and will have you ripped from stem to stern. Show me a player that admits to not giving it his all and I'll show you a player who becomes a dartboard to the media.

It's just something you don't mention, even if it is true. Like the rampant drug abuse.

Like I said, they had something to play for before the game started: knocking the Eagles out of first place in the NFC East.

I'm sure they were really concerned about that one. But let's go there for a second.

Three weeks prior, they had a game against New Orleans that pretty much determined their playoff positioning. A very important game against a division rival who pounded them earlier and with playoff implications on the side. Everything to get up for the game. And they got hammered.

And I'm supposed to believe that after a game in which they showed effort at home and got hammered in a game that meant a lot, that they would show equal or more effort in a game away from home that meant little?

You make it sound as if Feeley took on the Ravens' D with those #s. Doesn't make me like Feeley any less - he is who he is: a backup.

And I can't wait for the next Lehigh outing, if only because it gives me a chance to bring more wings and for Dean-o to tell me to loosen up.

By Bob Brookover
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
INDIANAPOLIS - With it looking more likely that Jeff Garcia will not return to the Eagles next season, two league sources said tonight that the Denver Broncos could pursue the veteran quarterback's services when the free-agent market opens Friday.

Steve Baker, the agent for Garcia, said Friday that if the two sides had not struck a deal before the free-agent period opened that the Eagles did not expect to re-sign his client. With veteran Jake Plummer expected to be released by the Broncos, they are in the market for a backup to second-year quarterback Jay Cutler, who took over as the starter during the final five games of his rookie season.

Garcia, who performed brilliantly after taking over for the injured Donovan McNabb during the 2006 season, had hoped to either rejoin the Eagles as McNabb's backup or go somewhere else and start for a team that is considered a postseason contender. If, as expected, the Eagles decide against bringing back Garcia, A.J. Feeley will be elevated to the backup role after spending last season as the third quarterback.

Baker said Friday that Garcia will have plenty of options to sign with other teams as either a starter or a backup once the free-agent market opens. It just doesn't appear likely any more that the Eagles are going to be one of those options.


Not like this upsets me or was unexpected. I thought he would be a better fit in Chicago.

I agree Garcia to the Bears makes sense in the QB vacancy realm... but I still think Garcia is a poor fit for their passing game. They really like to throw the deep ball to Berrian, I'm not sure Garcia could do that all season without herniating himself.

However, I'm sure they would adjust their scheme to suit Garcia's skill set.

OK, so he most likely won't resign with the Eagles BUT may take a position with another team as A BACK-UP?!? this really pisses me off, I know this has been beaten to death but this has to be one of Reids bigger mistakes letting McNabb's ego hurt the team...

Just mark my words, if he's not ready to start the season and AJ is #2 and is playing well when #5 takes his position as #1 back AJ will all of the sudden become a cancer... The city likes AJ, (actually I think we liked his woman more but that's another story) so just watch the fans route for AJ if/when #5 struggles then Donnie will start pouting and AJ will be gone... I've been a huge McNabb supporter but if my gut feeling is right and the lockerroom is disturbed by the momma's boy again I'll be off his bandwagon for good...

I utterly HATE a large portion of Eagles fans.

I hate WIP more, for givin those types a forum and bolstering their misguided feelings.


Ugh.

Johnson, I think his long ball is a little (repeat little) underrated. He threw some decent balls to Stallworth et al this year.

I also think the Bears need a "Guy that won't lose you the Game" type of QB, a la the 2000 Ravens. Let the D do their thing, run the ball effectively and don't turn it over.

That's Garcia to a T(room).

I would absolutely LOVE to be a Back-up QB in the NFL. Good pay, little pain, no one second guessing you. Any success you have is fantastic because it wasn't expected. And if you stink, the fans blame the FO for not getting someone better. It's the ferfect job.

For Goodness sake, I remember clamoring for Brad Goeble.

Seth, what's that supposed to mean?!?

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