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I think more to the point, he is done here after 2009. Thats when the deal is voidable by EITHER party.

Thats the only part I can conceed when people talk of the end of the McNabb era.

He will absolutely be the starter here 3 more years- and if somehow he goes these 3 uninjured, I wouldnt totally rule out him returning a 4th.

1 more serious injury tho and I think he bolts to another team in 2010.

I guess I just don't understand the point value system or whatever chart they use to determine what moving up in the draft costs.

How come it cost the Browns a first round pick in 2008 (and a 2nd round pick in this draft) to move back into the first round Saturday and it cost the Niners a first round pick in 2008 (and a fourth round pick in this draft) to move back into the first round on Saturday...

But, the Eagles let the Cowboys back in the first round for a 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks?

It seemed like the going rate to get back into the first round was a first round pick unless you were the Eagles.

If I were the Eagles, I would have been looking to get one of Dallas' two first round picks in 2008 as compensation.

An excellent point nobody's touched upon yet.

They got pantsed by a division rival.

That point wasn't mentioned because it was quite stupid.

Which move's worse? Philly trades with Dallas or Seattle sends Jackson to a team that beat them twice last year for a 2nd day pick?

The trade, not the point, Seth.

McNabb era will end without a SB.

So it's either Kolb will be the future, or he's a guy they wasted a high pick on, when they could've drafted other guys to help them now (which is backwards thinking anyway, because the Birds never draft for now).

It was mentioned that Elway wasn't happy when Maddox was drafted, wondering aloud why they're not working on helping him win.

Reeves did that out of spite to Elway, so the situation is a bit different.

Does any of McNabb's contract info change anyone's mind on the pick? Couple it with the fact that Reid thinks a QB needs 3 years to get the system down, and you can see why they did it.

Not saying I agree with them at all, just see how the planning went.

So should Reid have stood on the podium with a pair of pants with the #1 on them (when introducing the top picks) since the Eagles got "pantsed" by Dallas in the first round trade?

ASKDUDE- I will NEVER like the fact that they didn't get what seems to be fair value, addin to it, by the Cowboys.

Shoulda cost em a #1 like everyone else.

So yes.

And KB's right on the money here folks- after 2009, Kolb will take over. No sooner.

Didn't change my mind. In fact, it only enhanced the notion that Mcnabb would be here for 2, 3 years tops.

It could backfire on them if McNabb maintains a high level and somehow doesn't get injured. But even then those last years in his contract would either be restructured or he'll be traded to some other team.

But yeah, Kolb will replace McNabb in some way by 2009/10.

"It could backfire on them if McNabb maintains a high level and somehow doesn't get injured. But even then those last years in his contract would either be restructured or he'll be traded to some other team."

This is the best scenario. The team doesn't have to worry about restructuring his deal, and if they decide to do something a year early, McNabb will have a lot of value. They don't lose out on just letting him go, too. This would be the best for everyone involved.

So how will McNabb respond to this? Be even more driven and play to a level so high that it'll be apparent he can play until he's 40?

Or will he say "screw this" and mope, effectively forcing the Birds to trade/cut him?

This is different from other years - Feeley/Neckbeard weren't considered to be the future. There's no way Kolb ISN'T the future, and every wormburner pulls him closer to starting.

McNabb's contract breakdown:

2007: $8,835,000 (5.5 mil base salary)
2008: $9,635,000 (6.3 mil base salry)
2009: $9,206,000 (9.2 mil base salary)
2010: $10,006,000 (10 mil base salary)

He can be cut with a smaller cap penalty in after 2009, or no penalty after 2010. This gives the Eagles some flexibility to decide on how ready Corn is.

KB, what's the last year where McNabb's contract puts a hit on the cap?

OK.

"Or will he say "screw this" and mope, effectively forcing the Birds to trade/cut him?"

McNabb only hurts himself in this scenario. If he's smart, he plays out the last 2 or 3 years, and he can sign anywhere as a free agent. If he sulks and sucks (I don't think he would), he hurts his value a ton.

I think McNabb will be motivated and play well. (at least until he gets injured for the season again) If he did wind up moping/tanking/whatever, he just hurts himself (as previously stated), and it's not like Kolb will be ready to push him for a couple of years. Plus with Andy firmly committed to the run this season, McNabb's situation should be even better when he returns to action this year.

In all likeliness, this move could be considered something to raise McNabb's playing level now while looking ahead to Life Post-5.

Still, McNabb's play won't be the deciding factor as to why this team comes up short in the playoffs. Well, it COULD, but it won't be the primary.

McNabb only hurts himself in this scenario. If he's smart, he plays out the last 2 or 3 years, and he can sign anywhere as a free agent. If he sulks and sucks (I don't think he would), he hurts his value a ton.

How often does a star QB just play our his contract and walk? Brees did, but only because of a shoulder injury and the fact that they drafted a QB at the very top of the draft when they thought Brees sucked.


Normally these situations end in a release or trade (at some point in time)...I don't see McNabb just hitting the FA market in March 2010 or 2011.

"Normally these situations end in a release or trade (at some point in time)...I don't see McNabb just hitting the FA market in March 2010 or 2011."

Yeah, either after 2009, or 2010. That's what I said, he'd be a free agent b/c the contract can be voided with minimal (2009) or no cap hit (2010) after those 2 years.

For whatever reason, I'm thinking Kolb is likely to take over after the 2008 season if he develops as they hope.

I'm not sure that I'll ever really agree with this selection. I guess my reasoning is that I can't believe that there was no one else available on the board at that time that can help this team out *now*. Yeah, I might be shortsighted & all (like pretty much all of us) but I can't ignore the fact that you have a pretty good nucleus of guys right now that could be augmented with players in positions of need. It's not just the draft either, it's this team's philosophy as a whole that I'd like to call out. I'm sure that the brass can point to the last time that they went all-out and how it fell short and wrecked the season thereafter. My contention to that is that...well, it also worked. They had a shot, they got there.

I'll also second those thoughts about Elway. I've held the comparison between the two QBs in my mind for a while now, and hoped that it wouldn't take as long for the front office to wake up and make the kind of changes in playcalling & personnel...providing the weapons and the plan that finally got it done in Denver. I like the addition of Hunt, and coupled (dear God, I hope) with an actual commitment to a balanced gameplan, perhaps history can repeat itself for this team.

I'm glad you can seem so calm as you say that, Hook.

Reid and Banner r bitches.

Now, I've officially become an ardent McNabb supporter so that he can stick it in the craw of the FO.

These guys sicken me. Why get Schummacher and put him in Pinto expecting him to win a grand prix?

Why give up opportunity for your division rival to draft the very talent that could end your QB?

Great TE, great WRs, very solid CBs, solid DE all available...and they take QB?

Which columnist recommended that the Birds draft QB first last year?

Anyway, last year's draft made complete sense. You get two top rated players in Bunkley and Justice (granted their contribution is not comparable to their rating pre-draft) that were need positions.

QB? You have a very capable backup and an experienced backup. Why pay a 2nd rounder money to do nothing for essentially 2 if not 3 years?

So who thinks that Reid conceded to Marty Morningweg, and allowed him to get a couple of RB's? Yuu got think that he said if he's calling the plays on offence, he needs guys to go along with that. Just a thought.

2 other things that were surprising to me.
-No "O" line guys drafted. Very un-Reid like.

-No WR drafted. Are they really that high on Avant and Basket for 3 and 4?

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