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Is that firsthand or by way of a "source close to the situation"?

I'm just curious.

McNabb seethes when his ice cream falls out of the cone.

DGunn's close to DMac, right?

According to Spuds, McNabb was at the Novacare complex today working out and was in a great mood.

I would have to believe the Gunn report is probably more accurate.

According to Spuds, McNabb was at the Novacare complex today working out and was in a great mood.


Probably more like "oh great".

KB,
was that on DNL?

McNabb's contract breakdown:

2007: $8,835,000 (5.5 mil base salary)
2008: $9,635,000 (6.3 mil base salry)
2009: $9,206,000 (9.2 mil base salary)
2010: $10,006,000 (10 mil base salary)

He can be cut with a smaller cap penalty in after 2009, or no penalty after 2010. This gives the Eagles some flexibility to decide on how ready Corn is.

Actually, you can only pro-rate the signing bonus for a limited number of years. I think six years (new contract was signed in 2002). That means this is the last year his signing bonus counts against the cap.

That said, his base salary jumps considerably in, ohhhh, two years.

I also wouldn't concern yourself as much with the history of the Houston QBs. He ran a shotgun spread offense, but not a run-and-shoot offense. For what it is worth, that should be considered.

He has played in the same system since high school, so there's always the apprehension that its familiarity with a system that made him look better than he is. However, he shot up draft boards. Mayock had him listed as his #3 QB at the time of the Senior Bowl (more later). Len Pastabelly wrote an article for ESPN Insider just prior to the draft and said Kolb shot up team boards. Might've been teams hoped to hype other QBs to let him slip and, when it got closer, they showed their hand. Or, they let it slip that they liked him in the hopes someone else buys the hype. How can we spot the difference? Well, the Eagles under Reid do have a decent history with QBs they draft. If he can turn McNabb into a QB running the WCO well, is it hard to imagine him making Kolb into a QB who can run the system?

I have been a defender of McNabb on a number of occassions. I think the Eagles move puts to rest the idea that they sought to coddle him. I think, in retrospect, they simply realized they had a Pro Bowl QB and a very good backup would take up money needed elsewhere. However, his actions during this time are troubling, to say the least.

I can completely understand a day of WTF! However, after that day is over and your coach reached out to you, you respond like a professional. By most accounts, he has not responded . . . at all. Even if he got on the phone and ranted like a teenager, he paid the respect he owes his coach and employer of returning a call and an attempt to talk to him like an adult about the situation.

That kid is deep in the folds of Momma McNabb. He is paralyzed because he probably received terrible advice from his family and he knows it. So, rather than cross momma or show he isn't going to listen to her, he is playing the cold-shoulder game. His agent needs to get something out now.

To me, it really isn't all that out of the realm to see him dangled next off-season for a first round pick (or whatever tempting draft choice strikes your fancy) if he continues to play it out badly. What kind of example is he setting in Reid's locker-room if he pouts and refuses to mentor Kolb? How long would Reid put up with it? He has all off-season to get over this and come back okay with it. If he comes back with a terrible attitude, Reid will lock down the press conferences in his own way and will look to move him next year. Just my hunch.

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I watched the Combine again and the Senior Bowl again for glimpses of the guys they drafted. The DE tweaked a hammy at the Combine and didn't show anything. Tony Hunt - same thing. Didn't catch the safety, though he was on the list of standouts from Group 10 (in the top ten in 40 time, bench, etc.). The LB got some air time. Showed decent side to side agility for a guy his size. Hard to spot except when you compared it to others doing the W drills.

In the Senior Bowl, Tony Hunt looked great in limited action. Kolb looked okay, but the North D Line ate their lunch in the South backfield all day. He had no time, miserable conditions, and an amped up DL charging at him. How bad was the protection? A DE from Nebraska (Moore) twice came completely unblocked and leveled South QBs. Folks, this was with standard four man rush - no blitz - and with RB support.

In that game, Bradley looked fairly good. They had him rotate through all positions. He also played special teams. Good hits, decent tackling form. Whiffed on one tackle, but it appeared like the guy was down (actually just rolled on top of the CB Jackson and sprung up to run). The most I can say is that he didn't looked bad. Remains to be seen if he can transition to the next level.

Interesting play in that game? Brian Leonard absolutely steamrolling Willis as he drove for yardage. Got lower pads and destroyed the Ole Miss LB (who otherwise had a great game and could've been the South MVP).

I saw that set of figures, KB. I don't know why it's setting the value as high as it is. This is from page 62 of the Amended Collective Bargaining Agreement:

Signing Bonuses.
(i) Proration. The total amount of any signing bonus shall be prorated over the term of the Player Contract (on a straight-line basis, unless subject to acceleration or some other treatment as provided in this
Agreement), with a maximum proration of six years, in determining Team and Player Salary, except that:
(1) Maximum proration shall be five years (a) for contracts entered into during the period after the last regular season game of the 2005 League Year through the last regular season game of the 2006 League Year
and (b) for contracts entered into during the period after the last regular season game of the League Year preceding the Final Capped Year through the end of the Final Capped Year. For purposes of this Subsection
7(b)(i)(1) only, a renegotiation or extension of a Player Contract shall be treated as a new Player Contract.

McNabb's original $11.5 million bonus was pro-rated six years and the option bonus (2004) of $7 million kicked in. Later in the CBA, they talk about what other types of bonuses count as signing bonuses. From what I read (glanced over it), it seems like guaranteed money in one form or another. Not sure how the other bonus is counted and whether the total $18 million or so was pro-rated over the first six years. I just don't know how the bonus was structured or, once we find out, how it is pro-rated (if not considered "signing bonus").

Here it comes...

"I'm not concerned about [the decision to spend the first pick on Kolb]," Sam McNabb told the Daily News. "My son works for the Philadelphia Eagles right now and when he doesn't any longer, there are 31 other NFL teams he can play for."

great so he sends his dad to talk to the media while he pouts?!? I'm assuming of course that he has still yet to say anything himself...

You know McNabb is going to wind up either a Redskin or a Raider.

There are 31 other teams but I'm thinking if he goes he plays for a team in a cold climate.

I think he'll be a Viking or Bear as early as the 2008 season.

I think you're all on dope. McNabb is not going anywhere before 2009.

Thank you.
Im already on record as that being the soonest he rolls.

I doubt theyd trade him unless things got uneasy in the Novacare complex.

I have 1 vote in for McDisgruntled going back home to Chi-town in '09.


Book it.

It'll get uneasy. Of that, I have no doubt.

No way does McNabb play for another 3 years here. Very small chance.

2 at most...BOOK IT!

You guys honestly think the Eagles are going to take a QB 36th overall and sit him on the bench for the length of his contract?

They wouldn't have taken him that high if that was even a consideration. The clock is ticking and the main length of time remaining is dictated by the length of Kolb's deal.

Since the Reid has been in charge, every 2nd round pick they've made has been starting or cut within 2 years. Every single one, whether they earned it or not.

McCoy was handed the job without playing a down his rookie year.

Barry Gardner was handed the starting job after playing mostly special teams in his rookie year.

Todd Pinkston was handed the starting job after a 10 catch rookie season.

Reggie Brown pretty much earned it, but he was starting due to injury and declared the #1 WR after his rookie year.

Michael Lewis was deactivated for half of his rookie season and started a couple games due to injuries, but he was given the full-time starters role in his second season.

Sheldon Brown pretty much played from day one and played a lot of time through his first 2 season before inheriting the starting job after two years.

LJ starting 13 games over his first 2 seasons and was handed the full time starting role after 2 years.

The only other 2nd round pick was Quentin Caver and they cut him after one season.

On this team, 2nd round picks are expected to start and the Eagles clearly like to have at least 2 years to evaluate them before their contracts are up. I mean, there is a heck of a track record here and the only thing that prevents them from moving forward is a fantastic attitude from McNabb (behind closed doors, too) as well as 100% healthy, fantastic play.

The Eagles don't spend the 36th overall precious for a player who they "may" take a look at in 3 or 4 years, fellas.

You guys honestly think the Eagles are going to take a QB 36th overall and sit him on the bench for the length of his contract?

They don't even know if Kolb can play at an NFL level yet, much less be a better option than McNabb NEXT YEAR. They have a top 5 NFL QB as their starter. He is not going anywhere if he is healthy.

Calm down. Relax. Chill. The guy hasn't even held a clipboard yet and you've anointed him as the starter in a year.

f-d, the only problem is, those are all positions that the Eagles never really care about. Meaning, they'll replace them all whenever, either with mediocre talent, or another draft pick.

QB is the most important person on the team to them, so they're not going to treat that position the same as WR or LB, positions they've neglected or failed to address most of the time.

Right church, wrong pew

Calm down. Relax. Chill. The guy hasn't even held a clipboard yet and you've anointed him as the starter in a year.

Not at all. I'm just saying they drafted him 36 overall. That's where you draft a player who will start for you and start for you quickly.

I think if McNabb gets hurt, has a bad season, Kolb really impresses, or he throws a fit, they'll transition to Kolb quickly.

I think the most likely scenario is Kolb will be the opening day starter for the 2009 season and McNabb will be dealt before the 2009 draft.

If he sucks, that changes everything. I'm just saying this is what I believe their "plan" is.

I believe their "plan" was to draft someone they thought was good enough to come in and EVENTUALLY replace McNabb, and in the mean time have a capable young backup around for when McNabb gets hurt so they don't have to continue playing "find a backup" every year.

I know that's not as good an episode of "As The Eagles Turn" as some people here are hoping for.

I guess I am one of the few who believe that McNabb will retire eventually as an Eagle.

I thought McNabb would retire an Eagles, but the draft on Sunday cemented the fact that he'll finish up elsewhere.

I could be dead wrong on all this, but the Eagles have never viewed first day draft picks as expendable pieces. Every one they've taken has been drafted to become a starting player fairly quickly.

I don’t think anyone is saying that it is the Eagles desired plan to dump McNabb in a year. My point is that McNabb’s future is very much dependent on his attitude.

If you believe the Eagles and Reid would never turn over the offense to a young QB, I think you are forgetting history.
If you think Reid does not make cold, business like decisions with players he really likes or are fan favorites, you are forgetting history.
If you think the Eagles wouldn’t make a business move to trade a veteran (accomplished, fan favorite, coach favorite) with injury issues for draft picks if they have a chance, you are forgetting history.

McNabb is what he is. He is a top QB in the NFC. He knows this offense as well as anyone. He has an impressive resume and is a high character guy. He is also going to be 31. He is also battling a series of injuries. The franchise has been paying him for games he never played because of injuries.

IF he attitude blows (doubtful, but no one can accurately gauge how this guy reacts to things), the front office and Reid will face a decision. Put up with a seriously disgruntled player for X more years or look to trade a guy while his stock is relatively high.

That’s all I’m saying.

I suppose that I'm the only one who likes the Kolb pick, and isn't because I like McNabb. Last year at this time, all I heard was gloom and doom about how the Eagles would suck if anything happened to McNabb because Garcia was crap. Turned out, he wasn't all that bad, but he was probably one of two limiting factors (defense) that kept the Eagles from advancing to the NFCCG this past season. If this kid can come in and deliver key wins in a pinch, maybe they can
A) Feel confident in their chances whether or not McNabb misses times because of an injury.
B) Turn the reins over to him in 3-4 years if McNabb breaks or self-destructs.
C) Use him as trade bait later on.
Is the whole process risky? You bet.

I thought he'd retire as an Eagle, but if his pops is feeding him advice, he's not going to finish his career here.

Only way that happens is if Spencer crushes him on a hit, just because it's Philly.

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