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"fragile ego's don't win Super Bowl's"

Dude, I've seen sub-par QB's win SB's (Dilfer,Brad Johnson, etc.) They won because they were surounded with the right ingredients. (Good Defense, No-nonsense coaching, and balanced offensive attacks)

You put that around Mcnabb, and the fragile ego will be kept in check.

1st, you called Buck reliable????That is a joke! Is that why they brought in all these fresh young legs? This injury prone pot head is done. Yes, Westbrook is a star....A star this regime was ridiculously hesitant to re-sign until the whole T.O mess happened. The only reason they started running the ball more last year was out of necessity.

Yes, I’d call Buck a reliable back. He’s had the injury issues, but as far as his play, he’s reliable…and he’s also healthy now.

The Westbrook point is ridiculous. They were hesitant to re-sign him at him because he wanted big money and he hadn’t ever played a full season, but they DID re-sign him 5 months before he became a free agent.
So they have a star in Westbrook, a reliable backup in Buck, and 3 sets of fresh legs…2 of them power backs and one of them a homerun back. I think I’d call that “great depth”, wouldn’t you?

The play calling WAS dictated by necessity, but what does that matter now? As long as they stick with it it’s a moot point. I just wish they would have made the change earlier and of their own volition.


You don't know that. And now that you mention it, why did it take the team that passes more than any other this long to develop an "NFL Caliber" receiver? Also, you failed to mention that he's a number 1 WR. Wanna know why?....because he aint.

He had 900 yards and 8 TDs last year in his first as a starter, showing great improvement from his rookie year (which was also very good). I think assuming he can add another 7.5 yards per game to his stats isn’t ridiculous and it would be follish to assume he WON’T be a 1,000 yard receiver this year (barring injury).

As for why it took them so long to draft and NFL caliber receiver, that’s another moot point. We’re not discussing their draft history at WR, which is poor. We’re talking about right now and we’re talking specifically about Reggie Brown.

As for him being a #1 receiver, he’s not. He’s a 1A type receiver in my mind, but that’s good enough as long as there are other pieces around. I think he’s basically a healthier version of Darrell Jackson and that’s not bad at all.

I'm sure other teams are shaking in their boots at the thought of Kevin Curtis.

How many teams have a #2 WR who makes other teams “shake in their boots”? The Colts? Maybe the Pats with Moss and Stallworth?

The point is a #2 WR isn’t supposed to make another team shake in their boots. He’s a guy who has to be accounted for by the defense and that’s all I really need in a #2. If he was Reggie Wayne I wouldn’t be upset about it, but the fact is you don’t need a superstar at he #2 spot....just a guy who must be accounted for and can beat you if you don’t pay attention to him.

c'mon man....you sound like Spadaro

If Baskett and Avant aren’t two young, big bodied WRs, what would you call them?

They'd better be with an offense that throws too much.

I’m glad you agree that the offensive line is one of the best and deepest in the game. You’re finally getting on the right track.

I wouldn't say they fixed the gameplan last year. They altered it because they and nobody knew how good Garcia was going to do in Mcnabb's absence. And since when did it become automatic to believe what they say?
They fixed it by adjusting it and seeing the results. The why or how doesn’t matter as long as they stick with it. As for believing them, hey…I’ll never believe it 100% until I see it, but they say they saw the light , Reid said Marty will call the plays again this year, and they drafted 2 power backs in the draft. I’m choosing to believe them at this point based on the combination of their words and actions.


At this point.....nada, it's too late for this season. They had their chance to make big moves and sat on their hands while other teams who have a history of winning went out and made their teams CLEARLY better. (San Fran, New England, Indianapolis, etc.) Now the star QB who no-one thought leaving in the next few season's could be a possibility of discussion....well, it's now a discussion. A discussion his well documented fragile ego can't handle. And this is good for Eagles fans?

What move did you think they should have made? I think they should have re-signed Stallworth, but they brought in Curtis and that’s not a bad save.
Other than that, I didn’t see any moves this off-season they should have made to help McNabb that weren’t made.
Regarding his “fragile ego”, what does that have to do with anything? Every time a healthy McNabb has been attacked and cried about it, he’s come back and played better. He may have a fragile ego, but it doesn’t have any effect on his play by ALL accounts, so what’s the difference?

It’s just a cheap shot and you’re welcome to lay it out there, but it doesn’t have anything to do with football or his play.

Eagles could deal QB Kolb
Posted: Friday May 11, 2007 08:08AM ET
Eagles general manager Tom Heckert reiterated that the Eagles at this stage aren't married to Kevin Kolb. If Donovan McNabb bounces back from a knee injury and continues to play well, there's a chance Kolb could be dealt a la Matt Schaub, the third-round pick who was traded by the Falcons to the Texans

Delaware County Times

That would be an amazing investment.

Does taking a QB with the 36th overall pick and dealing him for a 3rd round pick sound like "net ahead" to anyone here?

Cmon man- you know why this was said -

To put Mc5 at ease without 'cowtowing' to him and his recent independence streak.

Also, cos it's true. I mean, they shouldnt be MARRIED to the guy.

He was taken 36th. SO?

Schaub was good for a move Up in rd 1, and the extra pick, dont forget and that aint terrible.

All Im sayin is dont read too much into it, it was said for a reason, thats how I look at it.

Schaub was the third rounder, he wasn't traded for one.
The Falcons and Texans swapped first rounders, plus Atlanta got Houston's 2007 and 2008 2nd rounders. I wouldn't hate that kind of deal a couple years down the road if Donnie comes to play. But I highly doubt that he'll be here come 2009...

Cmon man- you know why this was said -

Oh, I know why it was said. I just find it funny when people as smart as those guys in the Eagles front office say something that would make them clinically retarded if they actual felt it was true.

The only way Kolb gets a chance to showcase value that would either be close to what they "paid" for him or better would be a serious McNabb injury and excellent play from Kolb, which creates the catch-22.

In order for him to have that kind of value, he has to play lights out when McNabb suffers yet another serious injury. At that point, there's no reason to deal him because that's the whole reason they drafted him in the first place.

Schaub didn't play lights out, why would Kolb have to?

Schaub was the third rounder, he wasn't traded for one.

Yup...my bad. If McNabb plays great over the next couple years and is past the injury bug, Kolb could definitely be dealt.

I don't think they'll transition away from McNabb and anoint Kolb the starter for the heck of it.

However, they won't get much of anything for him (maybe a 4th rounder based on lights-out pre-season play and a couple good spot starts?) unless it plays out as I mentioned in the post above.

The only other scenario where Kolb is dealt for good value is if McNabb plays great (and healthy) ball over the next 2-3 years, Kolb REALLY impresses the coaches in practice/pre-season, and Morningwood or Reid get another head coaching gig.

In that type of scenario, maybe they go to the new job and trade a second round pick to bring over a seasoned young QB to start their own franchise (the Hasselbeck scenario).

Schaub didn't play lights out, why would Kolb have to?

He had that great pre-season the one year they played him a lot and had that amazing game 2 years ago in a spot start.

I guess he wouldn't have to play "lights out", but he'd have to show he's a rising starter in the league.

The Texans gave up essentially a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year. A future pick is the same value as one round lower in the current season.

So Schaub drew 2nd and 3rd round picks in this trade.

If Kolb subs a game for McNabb and throws for over 300 yards and 3 TDs in that game to go along with a couple other accomplishments, he could possible attain that value in a couple years.

You never know, though. Personally, I wouldn't be thrilled to go through all this nonsense just to pick up an additional 3rd round pick 3 years from now when McNabb is almost 34.

My general point is this: You don;t draft a guy 36th overall because you think you can develop and trade him. That would be a last resort to get some value out of the pick if McNabb just plays too well to dump him.

One pre-season 3 years ago (in which Ty Detmer outperformed him) doesn't seem like lights-out play to me. I mean, especially since his play went down after that. I just think it's more hype than anything, and the NFL is an easy place to create that.

Two words:

Tony Romo

nuff said

I still don't understand what was going through the Texans' minds when they made that trade. Schaub wasn't someone who I looked at as worth the price they paid for him.

Understood that they and Carr needed to part ways; fine. I think Carr will approach at least part of his potential in Carolina, and if he's even half as good as thought to be when he was drafted, look out.

Just don't see why Schaub was that vital to their future, unless they bought into the hype as previously mentioned.

One pre-season 3 years ago (in which Ty Detmer outperformed him) doesn't seem like lights-out play to me. I mean, especially since his play went down after that. I just think it's more hype than anything, and the NFL is an easy place to create that.

Come on man!

I took back "lights out" already, so there you go...that was a bit of an over-statement.

Detmer didn't outperform him that year, though. Shaub had almost 700 passing yards in that pre-season, 6 TDs, 2 INTs, completed 66% of his passes, and had a 99 QB rating.

Detmer was 9 of 10 passing for 86 yards and didn't throw a TD. Those numbers DID earn Detmer a 102 rating, but I wouldn't say he outperformed him.

That pre-season, combined with that big game he subbed for Vick 2 years ago got him the rep of a guy who was ready to start.

"I took back "lights out" already, so there you go...that was a bit of an over-statement."

I know, I was just emphasizing why Kolb doesn't have to perform that spectacularly to earn a nice return, that's all. Meaningless preseason games and one regular season game aren't anything to base a career off of, so I'm just saying Kolb doesn't have to do much, that's all.

Schaub is bigger than Jesus.

or Jebus.

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