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Seth in 736
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5/2/2007 9:29 PM
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Sheldon Brown apparently yappin in the media (D-Gunn, who else?) about wondering about his future with the team. WAH! Dont want any competition in camp from James? UGh.
CSN SPORTSNITE TONITE....
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Seth in 736
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5/2/2007 9:41 PM
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Brown:
"I dont wanna read too much into it but I can honestly say this- if Jim Johnson dont come to me and say he was misquoted, then obviously i think the article was written correctly-
then there may be a problem.
Until someone comes to me and says Sheldon we're thinking about goin in a diferent area, i dont read too much into it".
"To lose your job in that manner, (without being told 1st) it wouldnt be pretty- i can say that. If I wasnt productive, I could see losing it in that manner, but I can still play and have given a lot to the organization- but I understand its a business, and I guess I'll have to take my business elsewhere."
The article in question is Domo's in today's DN (see link below) in which he uses a conversation with JJ to hint at possible new starters on D this yr- and has high praise for Will James = calling him THE key to the secondary this season- not "A" key- but THE key.
Domo causes trouble, tsk tsk
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mlewis32kid
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5/2/2007 10:01 PM
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JESUS, you got to be kidding me?
WHAT A PUSSY. I am shocked that he said that. UNREAL.
That being said...What the fuck is the point (advantages) of JJ publicly talking about the job being open? Cant he just let things play out? I dont get it.
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Seth in 736
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5/2/2007 10:08 PM
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"Saw my picture in the paper
Read the news around my face
And now some people
Don't want to treat me the same"
When the walls
Come tumblin' down
When the walls
Come crumblin', crumblin'
When the walls
Come tumblin', tumblin'
Down
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mlewis32kid
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5/2/2007 10:12 PM
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touche seth...
here is my question...every year, something is about to tear this team down to its foundation. Is this a unique situation in Philly, or does every team have a controversy/story line? This team loves to focus on everything BUT fooseball. SHELDON BROWN...Worried about WILLIAM JAMES......Its getting cold down here...
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Seth in 736
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5/3/2007 5:38 AM
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I'll tell you that this kinda crap happens on all teams on varrying levels- some you hear about, some you don't and most of it is in the end of little consequence.
I am surprised as to the harsh words outta Brown, never took him for 1 to get easily offended/hurt/riled up but oh well- I dont have to live with him so Im already past it.
Another pampered athlete? The hell you say!
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uber1024
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5/3/2007 6:32 AM
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This is especially surprising given that Brown is the best CB on the team.
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Fred_Barnett
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5/3/2007 7:44 AM
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When as an organization you repeatedly show thru your actions that the overwhelming concern is the buisness side of things, why shouldn't that reflect in the attitudes of its' players? These guys aren't worried about championships and team unity and all those other outdated ideals. There worried about "me first" and their own bottom line. Call it trickle down, but it doesn't surprise me at all.
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5/3/2007 8:10 AM
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I'm a little more surprised that James is really that good, or that JJ thinks he is that good... I know when he was a Giant he was ok to good, but that was 2-3 years ago I always thought the older a corner got the less chance he would come back into the league and be able to play at the starter level...
As for Brown I had always considered him the better of the two corners, Lito to me always seemed a little overhyped because he was the higher of the two picks, and had more int's. which isn't IMO always a sign of a better DB.
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KeithByars
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5/3/2007 8:19 AM
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FB, the difference is, the team lets things play out, they don't whine to the press. The equivalent thing for Brown to do is to show up in training camp and win his job.
Instead, he's already acting like it's lost (when it's not), and crying.
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uber1024
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5/3/2007 8:26 AM
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I think it should also be considered that ALL of this is filtered through the Philly media, which has demonstrated all the journalistic responsibility of a shitfaced FOX news reporter in Baghdad.
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KeithByars
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5/3/2007 8:29 AM
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Yeah, but there are direct quotes, which makes it hard to place the fault on the media.
I mean, if Brown said the above thing, it's kind of hard to place it in any kind of context that would make it seem more innocent.
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Fred_Barnett
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5/3/2007 8:34 AM
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KB, I'm not saying that I agree with it, but that it doesn't surprise me. When you see these athletes making public statements, they're merely trying to gain leverage on the team from either the media and/or public support. That's the only leverage you have, other than your standing in the depth charts. And sometimes that standing can change subjectively, without warning. It's a buisness. If the team thinks you're on the downslide (even if you may not be), you're out. So if the team can play hardball with you, what's the difference with you playing hardball back? I'd think that the team would even expect more of these types of public displays. It's the only real leverage the players have, the power of public opinion.
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KeithByars
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5/3/2007 8:36 AM
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Whining about taking your ball home with you doesn't give you any leverage as an athlete. He has a contract here, the only leverage he has is playing hard in training camp and keeping his job.
Again, he's already acting James was given the job. He sounds defeated, like he gave up already.
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uber1024
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5/3/2007 8:41 AM
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I mean, if Brown said the above thing, it's kind of hard to place it in any kind of context that would make it seem more innocent.
I guess I was referring to JJ's comments that kicked this whole thing off. Either way, I don't even bother with the Philly media any more.
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Seth in 736
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5/3/2007 8:45 AM
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D Gunn is brutal.
He has a good rapport with a majority of the Eagles, and they like to have it so he gets all the scoop, quotes etc 1st- you've ALL noticed this by now, no? They help him out by talking to him, above anyone else.
Anyway- you just KNOW Gunn called Brown, and asked him if he'd seen the D.N.'s back page yesterday- as he read Domo's quotes to him.
"Can I come over with a camera guy and get your reaction?"
Brutal.
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bassiladelph
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5/3/2007 9:17 AM
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He should've taken this as motivation since the team is seemingly unhappy with his play.
I don't see how, since (as already stated) Lito's a bit overrated (and Sheldon was proven better by some stat formula) and I don't see James as being a better corner.
But a player not playing for his job in the ultra-competitive NFL? Could've knocked me over with a feather.
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KeithByars
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5/3/2007 9:23 AM
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Seth, I know what you're saying, but that's the media's job. It's Brown's job to shut the hell up and look at this as motivation, and not act like he already lost.
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Seth in 736
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5/3/2007 9:35 AM
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KB- completely agree.
Wasnt implying that D-Gunn is guilty of anything other than being that circling buzzard, and being smarter than those players who have established an open line of communication with him.
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flesh4fantasy
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5/3/2007 9:46 AM
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gunn's post-game, outside the locker room shtick has always nauseated me and seemed more than slightly demeaning. i half expect him to ask the players to autograph his tie.
now i see it for what it is - to gain the players' trust and get the first scoop. brilliant!
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Seth in 736
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5/3/2007 9:52 AM
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Worst part is he's got a News Anchor attitude despite being a jock sniffer on a cable channel.
Bigtimer.
Saw him actin up as we left the Dallas Hotel after a road trip out there for the Sunday Niter (Feeley to Pinky game).
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bassiladelph
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5/3/2007 9:56 AM
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Wasn't he on one of the main stations for a minute?
And I can't see how the players don't realize he's just using them to get up close. As media savvy as the Eagles are, you'd think that attitude would trickle down with their players.
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Seth in 736
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5/3/2007 10:02 AM
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Do I need to spell this out?
He 'brothers up' to em, gets em to feel like they're helpin out a brother who wont diss em or critique em, (Never has a harsh word for anyone other than management, ever notice?) and in return he gets all the stories.
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f-dallas
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5/3/2007 10:18 AM
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Sheldon might want to learn how to read if he wants to cry about this. The quotes said nothing negative about Sheldon and NOTHING about losing his job:
"William is a guy who can start," Johnson said. "When he played last year, he played well. We just didn't get enough out of him as far as being healthy on the field."
Okay...he's complimenting James and saying that a healthy James is a starting quality player.
Asked whether James will be given an opportunity to beat out Brown this summer, Johnson said, "I think [James] is a starting [quality] cornerback. Anytime you get that kind of competition, sure, he's going to push the other guy.
He said James is a "starting caliber player" and said anytime there is that kind of competition, he's bound to push the other guy. What's the harm there?
"But Sheldon's a good corner. We expect Sheldon to have a good year. But the best players are going to play.''
So he said Sheldon's a good corner and the best players will play. Since when is this NOT true? It would be a big upset if James beat our Sheldon, but does Sheldon think he should play is James is obviously better?
I was looking at these quotes and it's the same stuff we've been seeing for years. This is the same thing they said about Al HArris every year. Same thing they said about Sheldon when he was a nickel. Same thing they said about Rod Hood when Sheldon/Lito were starting.
Whenever the Eagles have a nickel corner, they always claim he's "really a starting caliber corner".
STOP CRYING SHELDON! Sheldon will have a really good year and will only lose his job if he starts getting torched in games regularly, which no one expects.
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The Dude
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5/3/2007 11:38 AM
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Fact is -- These quotes just bear out what the Eagles coaches have been saying since last season. They felt Sheldon didn't play up to ability last season, and they want to push him to give more this year. I have no problem with that. I AM annoyed at the immaturity of his reaction, even if prompted by the media buzzards.
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