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True or False that AJ Feeley is opening day starter?
I havn't been to camp and seen MCNabb, but is he really going to be ready on day one?
True or False that Ryan Moats makes the team?
I have a feeling that if Tony Hunt looks like he can play, then Moats stays and Buckhalter goes. If Hunt looks like most rookies, then Buck stays and Moats is gone.
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From what I've read and heard McNabb will play very little in Preseason games if at all.
He'll start on opening day with an offense that will be more geared towards a QB that is less mobile.
More running plays. Short passes. etc.
As far as Moats goes he is on the BUBBLE
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True or False that AJ Feeley is opening day starter? False. I think Mcnabb comes back in time to make opening day. Now as far him playing out the season thats another question.
True or False that Ryan Moats makes the team? True. He makes the Dairy Queen Junior Management team. He will also be the Blizzard Maker of the month for September.
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bassiladelph
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8/9/2007 3:58 PM
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McNabb starts in Green Bay.
The only way Moats makes the team is as Tra Thomas' waterboy.
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f-dallas
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McNabb definitely starts opening day unless he suffers a serious setback (and there has been no evidence to suggest one is coming so far).
Moats? I'd say 50/50. I think what they'd love to see is Moats tear it up in the pre-season and they could deal him for a conditional 5th round pick that turns into a 4th if he meets certain incentives, but if that doesn't happen I still think they'll be loathe to cut him unless he just stinks up the joint in pre-season.
If you watch Moats, his quickness, speed, and agility are amazing. I was just watching practice video from a couple days ago and he's just a cut above everyone else in those departments.
Don't forget that he's currently taking the first team reps right now with Westbrook gone, Buck hurt, and Hunt hurt. They may go 4 deep there if they can and just deactivate Moats on Sundays.
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8/9/2007 4:14 PM
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But he's dumber than a box of hammers and he fumbles alot. Not to mention he makes bone head plays on special teams. I'd just as soon keep Nasti Nate than do another year of Moats. What teams could you realistically trade him to?
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8/9/2007 4:23 PM
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He could go along with a 3rd round pick! For a good receiver!
Anyway, what good is depth if he knows the system about as well as the guy on the street? He's cannon fodder at this point, and keeping him to artificially inflate his trade value will only work if there's another team that's decimated at RB.
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f-dallas
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8/9/2007 4:37 PM
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But he's dumber than a box of hammers and he fumbles alot. Not to mention he makes bone head plays on special teams. I'd just as soon keep Nasti Nate than do another year of Moats. What teams could you realistically trade him to?
I don't think Nasti Nate is even going to make the practice squad. Apparently he's been the disappointment of camp.
That's another reason I think Moats has a shot to stick for one more year if they can't deal him...they may not even have a practice squad back behind the talented but currently not available crew of three.
If the season started today they'd have Westbrook (who is awesome but not yet proven as a durable guy), Buck (who is currently hurt and has a knee made of a coat hanger), Hunt (who knows the playbook worse than Moats right now AND is hurt) there with Moats. I'd like Moats as an insurance policy if nothing else, but the numbers are going to be tight.
In terms of who would be interested, Denver has expressed interest a couple times. Miami doesn't have much depth. Green Bay's situation is terrible. Buffalo could use him...
Moats is a really talented guy and if he gets to show that talent in the pre-season, they might be able to find a market for him (albeit a low value market).
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8/9/2007 4:47 PM
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I don't think Nasti Nate is even going to make the practice squad. Apparently he's been the disappointment of camp.
You can't really be disappointed with what was a low pick in the first place.
Still, if you want insurance, this team has shown the desire to sign Dorsey Levens whenever the need fits them.
As for Moats, why haven't those teams moved on him now? He showed enough that some people were thinking he's come in and do for Westbrook when it wasn't clear if he'd be re-signed (correct me if I'm wrong), so what's changed? High asking price for a guy that ends up being deactivated every game?
If they can get anything for him, great. And no one doubts his talent or his quickness - I just doubt that anyone really sees him as being that great, or maybe teams are just waiting for the Birds to outright cut him.
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8/9/2007 4:48 PM
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And I thought Westbrook did a lot last year to help shed that label of not being 'durable'.
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8/9/2007 4:53 PM
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You can't really be disappointed with what was a low pick in the first place.
I know...not saying he was a disappointment like a "wasted pick". I'm just saying he's a guy a lot of the fans were really looking forward to seeing, but he's been getting trounced on the Eagles own site.
Still, if you want insurance, this team has shown the desire to sign Dorsey Levens whenever the need fits them.
Holy Shit. If they thaw out Dorsey again I'm going to scream. Nothing against the guy, but he was on his last leg about 4 years ago.
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f-dallas
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8/9/2007 4:55 PM
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And I thought Westbrook did a lot last year to help shed that label of not being 'durable'.
One season and he was on the injury report/not practicing (only missed a game or so) with a bum knee most of the season.
I love the guy, but I'm still a little nervous about his durability.
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8/9/2007 5:00 PM
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"fans were really looking forward to seeing, but he's been getting trounced on the Eagles own site." -F-dallas
That merely because Spuds doesn't like his bubble.
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Yeah, I'm not saying Westbrook is Iron Man.
And I wanted Nasti Nate to make the team as well, because he could've been Nigerian Nightmare 2.0. Oh well. And even if they thaw Dorsey out of carbonite, he knows the offense, something that Moats can't even claim to knowing. I still remember how Thomas looked like he was going to eat Moats during that SF last year.
That merely because Spuds doesn't like his bubble.
Dude, Nate IS a bubble.
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8/9/2007 7:52 PM
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Holy Shit. If they thaw out Dorsey again I'm going to scream. Nothing against the guy, but he was on his last leg about 4 years ago.
whut he said.
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"I still remember how Thomas looked like he was going to eat Moats during that SF last year."
I showed that clip to some of my team when they didn't understand how big NFL Linemen are. Most of my guys are Moats' size and couldn't believe he looked like a child being scolded by "Daddy".
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heard in a couple of places that both nate and moats have fumbled far too much in camp. moats, cya....nate, practice sqd if ur lucky.
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True or False, the Defensive line will be as bad against the run as last year?
True or False, Jeremy Bloom is to small to stay healthy?
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8/15/2007 10:38 AM
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True or False, the Defensive line will be as bad against the run as last year?
False...26th last year. I do not think the D can really get much worse than that. The Colts will be bringing up the rear again this year.
True or False, Jeremy Bloom is to small to stay healthy?
True. Kid was out of football for a while. His body is not going to like being hit this much.
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False, I think the run D will be better, even though I'm expecting Trotter to have lost a few steps, the addition of Spikes and the growth of some of the younger guys will make the apparently beefy LB's better supportive on the run.
True, Bloom doesn't make it out of training camp, another year of IR before the start. Look at it this way, at least they didn't select him with the 10th overall draft selection...
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I'll go false on the run D and only because I can't imagine it being any worse. They could play like complete shit and still improve.
On Bloom, I'm not sure why we would assume he can't stay healthy. He was coming off of Pro skiing for a few years and it's not surprising that he ended up hurt. This off-season he's trained his body and hasn't suffered any injuries. He came out of the game for a total of 1 kickoff in his debut and returned without appearing to suffer any dies effects. He MIGHT break, but I don't think there's any reason to assume he will.
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If you are going by pure rankings, false would be the answer, they have a couple of more physical players which will help to a degree But True in the sense of effectiveness, when it comes down to HAVING to stop the run on a consistent basis they won't, the coach hasn't been replaced, the scheme will be essentially the same, they are what they are.
Bloom, false, he seemed to accelerate and make a move to avoid the direct hit on kickoffs, on punts he read the coverage, made 1 move then north south getting near the max yardage the went down or out of bounds. Similiar to the running back Dunn, quick move, get what you can and avoid the big hit. He'll be fine. Bonus on the 2nd punt (I think it was the 2nd) when he fielded the semi shank cleanly and got yards vs the 15-20 yd. roll we've been seeing the past few years.
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When it comes down to HAVING to stop the run on a consistent basis they won't, the coach hasn't been replaced, the scheme will be essentially the same, they are what they are.
A lot could depend on the offense's commitment to the run game, thereby giving the D some time to recharge. Like it would be nice to see a RUN on second down and 2, for once, and I ain't talking about a double-reverse or one of the fat man's gadget plays. A run.
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8/15/2007 2:43 PM
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True or False, the Defensive line will be as bad against the run as last year?
False. We heard how the run D was blamed mostly on the DLine coach and him trying to get players into a different scheme. But it's either a) they'll get better at putting a round peg in a square hole, or b) they'll use a scheme that best fits them, and by proxy, they'll be better.
Realistically, they're not Top 10 run D. But they'll be better.
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False on the D. As someone stated up there, it can't possibly be worse.
True on Bloom. Seems to lack the size and skiing ain't no pigskin.
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