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Here's a really strange and oddly-timed article by Ashley Fox (who has apparently lost her McGeachy). She interviews Childress about Andy Reid's health, and Childress and the article seem to insinuate that Reid is a smoker. Either that or Childress and Fox enjoy drawing some really odd parallels.
I never thought that he was a smoker, but now that I think about Reid's labored breathing, I realize it sounds very similar to my Dad's breathing patterns, as he denies his habit. Still, I would think this sort of thing would be out in the open in Philly because everyone is looking for a way to pounce on Reid.
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1/4/2009 2:06 PM
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Always thought smoking and drinking were verbotten in the Mormon Church. With Andy being portrayed in the news as a devout Mormon I would believe the labored breathing is due to weight and other possible health issues.
With the exception of his sons. He has done a great job of keeping his private life private...
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1/4/2009 2:25 PM
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Agreed, very odd. They seem to more than insinuate that he's a smoker.
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1/5/2009 1:53 AM
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Bill Simmons sums up FB greatly:
Philly's Andy Reid will be battling former assistant Brad Childress on Sunday in a matchup Peter King described as "teacher vs. pupil." Teacher versus pupil???? That explains everything! Do you think Reid tutored Childress in classes like "Screwing Up a Two-Minute Drill," "Hanging Your QB Out to Dry," "Dumb and Possibly Damaging Field-Goal Attempts," "Idiotic Short-Yardage Calls," "Special Teams Collapses," "How To Blow Your Challenges," "Leaving Yourself With No Timeouts" and "How To Remain Calm As You're Getting Booed By Your Own Fans"?
There's even more goodness in the article, so check out the link if you're so inclined. click here
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1/5/2009 2:05 AM
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Childress didn't blow his challenge, but Reid was sure ready to blow his.
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1/5/2009 7:35 AM
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"How To Remain Calm As You're Getting Booed By Your Own Fans"
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1/5/2009 9:41 AM
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So much stuff and most of it has probably been covered, so I'll focus on my favorite part of the game shortly.
I think this victory goes primarily to the special teams. They lit it up in coverage, Akers went 4-4, DeSean gave them premium field position twice and set them up for scores, Rocca was at the very top of his game.
If the Special Teams would have played poorly in that game, it's conceivable the Eagles might have lost (as it played out).
My favorite moments of the game came at the end of the half...you truly got to see the teacher and the pupil go to work in their respective 2 minute offenses.
Eagles are up by 2 and get the ball at their own 25 yard line with 1:51 until half time and a miraculous 2 timeouts. They start the drive with a 13 yard catch by Celek, who gets out of bounds with 1:46 left on the clock. Now, they RUN against the league's top ranked rush defense, with an injured back, in the 2 minute drill, on their own 38 yard line. What the fuck?
Obviously, they burn a timeout. They follow that up with another pass to Celek for 9 yards. They now sit at their own 47 with a 3rd and 1, a timeout, and realistically about 10-15 yards from a field goal. They choose to run their "hurry up" offense, which promptly burns 24 seconds off the clock. The play on 3rd and 1? Jump ball deep down the left sideline to Kevin Curtis, which is easily picked off. I'm sitting there thinking "This is why the Eagles lose. Brain-dead shit like this".
Then I learn the mustache wasn't the only thing Coach Childress took from his sensei.
Vikes get the ball with 1:10 remaining on their own 13 yard line, down 2 points. They have 1 timeout remaining and a pretty long field with a shitty QB. You can try for the field if you want to take the momentum or you can play it safe and run out the clock knowing the game is closer than it should be. The Vikings choose BOTH!
First play is a run for no gain. During and after that play they burn 37 seconds before their next snap at the 37 second mark. The call? A short pass, which is incomplete (stopping the clock). With 3rd and 10 coming up, they run again and the Eagles are able to call their final timeout, guaranteeing them pretty good field position and enough time for 2-3 plays.
The Vikes get off a decent punt and Jackson has a nice return, giving the Eagles the ball at their own 44 with 18 seconds. Again, Akers was kicking extremely well and looked like he was good for 60 or even a couple more based on the game and what he was doing beforehand, so you have to get to the Vikes 43 or 44 yard line for a SHOT at a long one. On the first play, the Eagles get a 9 yard completion/out of bounds to Westbrook putting them at the Vikes 47 (which would be a 64 yarder). They have 13 seconds remaining (burned 5 on that play). They try to go back to the well and miss Westbrook, leaving them with 8 seconds remaining and about 4 yards to gain. They choose to go back to Westbrook for the 3rd straight play and he's tackled in bounds to end the half.
In 1:51 of game time, there was a kickoff, a punt, and INT, two timeouts, ten plays, and 3 possessions with no points.
Now THAT is some impressive shit, IMO.
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1/5/2009 9:46 AM
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Wasn't supposed to be in this thread...oops.
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1/5/2009 11:15 AM
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Even posted in the wrong thread, FD drops the knowledge.
Brian Seltzer was on 950 this morning, and he said that the players kicking up their game is more in response to the front office and having to prove themselves to Banner and Co. than what the sheets have been saying about them. Kinda thought that was a little interesting.
He also said that Dawkins is a personal favorite of the Luries, so there's no chance they let him go. And considering the level he's played at, gotta show him some love (even if you don't feel he can do that for 16+ games).
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1/5/2009 12:07 PM
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the players kicking up their game is more in response to the front office and having to prove themselves to Banner and Co. than what the sheets have been saying about them.
How can anyone really know why the players played significantly better in the last two games? Human motivation is not an exact science. If someone knew the answer to that riddle, he'd be able to go undefeated and win a Super Bowl every year, earn mammoth profits, and take over sovereign nations with ease. It's just not that simple.
Perhaps the players have stepped up their game because they really want to win a Super Bowl.
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He was responding to a question based on his being in the locker room - didn't even mention the FO, but he brought it up.
Not saying that's the sole motivating factor - who doesn't want to win a SB? - but it's an interesting point nonetheless.
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1/5/2009 1:51 PM
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As usual, f-d puts down in writing what most of us here were thinking. Excellent breakdown, Jaws style.
In fact, I'm thinking we should start doing a 700level YouTube segment after every game, ala Jaws, showing exactly how dumb some of FB's calls are.
I can see it now. "Now see here you're on the second play of the first quarter. Time to burn a timeout because you sure didn't anticipate getting over 15 yards on your last play."
Must see TV.
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1/6/2009 7:33 AM
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"We did it again . . .
We fired a coach before his players fired him. And that's how it always works."
And if Andy loses on Sunday????? A little early I think for a plate of crew Bill! click here
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1/6/2009 8:28 AM
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1/6/2009 9:26 AM
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"Philly.com has comprehensive coverage of News, Sports, Entertainment, Business, Obituaries and Death Notices and more."
Is it my comprehension skills or my eye sight going bad?
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1/6/2009 9:43 AM
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I think he was trying to link this bit of genius... link
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1/6/2009 9:44 AM
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wow, that's effed.
Here it is:
Reid bashers, including me, eating their words now as Eagles advance in playoffs
By Bill Conlin
Philadelphia Daily News
I DON'T KNOW about you, but I prefer my crow medium rare. Feathers on the side.
They say revenge is a dish best served cold. If that aphorism is indeed true, by the time the Eagles line up against the Giants Sunday with a trip to the NFC title game on the line, Andy
Reid will have served the most cold meals since the Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes.
We did it again . . .
We fired a coach before his players fired him. And that's how it always works. When
putsch comes to shove, only the players matter.
No matter how many thousand Greenshirts decided it was time for Big Red to hit the road, it wasn't going to happen until guys named Dawkins, McNabb, Runyan, Thomas and Westbrook provided the body language and body actions that invariably point a coach toward the door.
It would be inaccurate to say that Reid has weathered the storm. Because the storm has weathered him. It was spawned in the Inter-Topical Conversation Zone, in newspapers, on call-in radio shows, in blogs, in sports bars, chat rooms, forums, all the places where Eagles talk is 24/7. It came ashore at the
NovaCare Complex headquarters as a Category 3-and-out, but it did not spawn there.
Oh, there might have been murmurs of discontent over the playcalling during the dreadful patch of football that threatened to doom the season, the Bengal tie that began a crisis measured in goal-line inches and red-zone feet, in call after call that seemed to defy football logic. Nobody could quite figure Andy's unwillingness to endorse a McNabb sneak on fourth-and-a-short-1 when the quarterback had looked like a tackling dummy all afternoon. And why so few running plays against the AFC's worst run defense?
But there was nothing I heard or read from the athletes that remotely could be construed as mutiny or even lukewarm sedition. Mainly, the athletes were saying quite honestly, "It's on us, all of us." And if that implicated the coaching staff, it was an honest assessment that caused even Reid to alter his own maddening modus of accepting 100 percent of the blame. No matter how many Eagles deserved singling out, special mentions and the kind of disdain Bill Parcells - the anti-Reid - seemed to delight in dishing out.
After the debacle in Baltimore against a Ravens team more than a million of us apparently took just a little too lightly, Reid said the coaches, particularly him, had to do a better job and - this was a breath of rare air - the players had to play better.
Of course, his second-half benching of McNabb had such a high reading on the Sunday sensation meter, even Gov. Rendell hyperventilated through the panicked postmortems.
A lot of people wrote and said - or shouted - it was time to blow up the longest running coach/quarterback success story in Eagles history. I was part of the mob ready to march on owner Jeffrey Lurie's upholstered South Philly Bastille, although I was torn at the time over whether to brandish a pitchfork or scythe.
Anyway, it was off-with-their-heads time.
But a funny thing happened on the ox-cart parade to the guillotine. The Eagles put a fearful physical whipping on the NFC West champion Cardinals. Then they physically mauled the defending Super Bowl champion Giants on a brutally cold day in the Meadowlands. The game was not as close as the 20-14 score. The dreadful Browns weren't even a passable speed bump.
The Birds' next victim was, well, them. The brutal loss to the Redskins in another one of those inches, yards and strange playcall nightmares wrested control of their playoff destiny from the Eagles' clutches, leaving them dependent on the kindness - or ineptness - of strangers.
You'll be rehashing what happened during the Brokedown Cowboy massacre as long as you draw breath, along with all the things that had to happen to make meaningful the annihilation of a Dallas team that came into the Linc holding hands with destiny.
But even if everything had collapsed like Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme and the Eagles had cleaned out their lockers a week ago, all the columns, blogs, callers on hold and the mighty voice of Eagle Nation was not going to move Lurie.
The Wal-Mart Board doesn't fire the CEO after a bad quarter. And Lurie is astride the Wal-Mart of the NFL. The Eagles might not be the gold standard, but they remain the brand most owners want to emulate. If 67,000 season ticketholders walked on Joe Banner, there would be a stampede by the 100,000 who would give up their first-born to take their place.
If the Pentagon wants to rapidly deploy a large force of men in uniform to a distant hot spot, just announce there is an Eagles game in Kabul. The Big Green One will be on the move.
Meanwhile, we need to lengthen our memories. We need to remember how earnestly thousands of us tried to run Charlie Manuel back to the hills of western Virginia. How did that turn out? Elmer BeFuddled became Elmer BeLoved.
Coach was unusually effusive during yesterday's Andy Twenty, ladling praise by the tablespoonful.
At 12:19 p.m., my wife said, "It looks like Andy is going to run a little longer today."
"Nope," I replied. "One more minute."
Sure enough, the voice of the PR monitor gave the Two More Warning. It was over at 12:20.
Damn, just when Andy was on a roll . . . *
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1/6/2009 10:10 AM
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If the Eagles keep running the ball, keep winning, and bring home a title, there's no doubt you can say Reid has acquitted himself, but it's too early for the "crow" piece.
What if Reid goes out this week and the Eagles throw 50 passes, never really in the game and having nothing going for them on offense. Is Reid still the coaching genius he is right now?
It's all bullshit, really. If Reid was capable of change, he could turn this thing around. I don't know if he is (in the long term) and fluctuating between 5 and 10 wins with the occassional playoff victory isn't doing it for me. I don't think he's a bad coach...I think he's limited in ways that become fatal flaws and his basic fundimental understanding of offense is wrong.
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1/6/2009 10:15 AM
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Fuck that, ... I give the Oakland Raiders more credit than Andy Reid.
Jeez, ... wake the hell up people! The ONLY thing that's changed in the past week is that he went from moderately ugly to red and gray splotchy faced fugly.
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1/6/2009 10:16 AM
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One thing I will say about Reid is that the players never quit on the season, with the possible exception of the Mike McMahon era, and who could blame them.
Last year they won their last 3, they made the playoffs w Garcia after being 5-6, and this year at 5-5-1.
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1/6/2009 10:22 AM
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There's promise yet for you NEAG.
I for one can't wait to see you modeling off your #88 Marvin Harrison Eagle's jersey after the Colts cut his sorry ass and the Eagles sign him, proclaiming they now have the #1 receiver they've been waiting for.
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1/6/2009 10:22 AM
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That's very true. They MIGHT have mailed it in in 2005, but they were so shorthanded because of injuries it was tough to tell. They always play for Reid, which is a definite positive.
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That is one of the worst articles I have ever wasted my time reading.
Eat crow?
Dean-o is correct, nothing has changed other than the Eagles luck. And luck is a fleeting thing. I'll go back to one of my original criticisms of Reid- That Redskins game told me all I needed to be convinced of about Reid- at some point the best coaches are great motivators. He may be a great West Coast passing guru, but to not have your team ready to play a do or die game is CRIMINAL.
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Exactly. There was absolutely no excuse for scoring 3 measley points on the Deadskins. The fact that they're in the playoffs now is pure luck. Reid should be at home right now pondering how "they're just a hair off."
The only thing the Minnesota game showed is how more inept Childress is at the 2 minute drill than Reid.
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1/6/2009 12:25 PM
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It's like feast or famine in the media - either Reid and 5 need to be run out on a rail, or they get tons of praise.
Reid still needs to be let go, and that shouldn't change despite beating a team that had already quit and a team with a bad coach that barely beat a collection of 2nd-stringers in a must-win game.
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