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He also didn't take into account the fact that defensive backs can't be as physical with WRs anymore which leads to them getting more open, more quickly. That leads to less time for a QB in the pocket and less time for a defensive lineman to get home.

That's really my point, FD. You can point to a # of different factors as to why sacks might be down, but if you look at most of the stats, the league as a whole is projected to finish at about the same level as last year.

What he's trying to do is base an entire column on a blown call, and saying that it's a trend, without really putting forth too much proof, and even somewhat brushing off the opinion of someone who's been in the league for a long time.

Rich's new column, and just when you think he's going to get on the coach, SURPRISE! It's mostly McNabb's fault. Especially the two interceptions. One of which didn't matter.

Hoffman is a fucking tard... listen to this---

And now, well, what? Eight weeks is a long time. This is a good coaching staff and it has schemed its ways out of messes in the past - but that seems unlikely now.

Give me an effing break... McNabb was pretty bad BUT the playcalling was horrid and not just Offense, JJ must have been asleep through most of the game. Personally I thik the Defense was the reason for the loss... Why the hell do you have rolling coverage on T.O.??? Put Sheldon on him and he disapears... TO practically came out and sadi that Brown gets right up and jams him and Lito is more like a ghost, in other words Brown is physical and lito is trying to be a ball hawk (don't get me started on the fact that Hanson was covering him in the 3rd quarter)

The saddest thing is that as predictable as the Eagles Offense is last night the Cowboys were just as bad, I knew about 60-70 percent ofwhat the plays were going to be as the ball was snapped... Omar or whoever is making the D adjustmants was getting smoked like a cheap cigar... There was almost NO pressure attempted on Romo, how did the Bills almost beat them?!? by blitzing and forcing Romo to his weak side(left I believe) and then getting INT's...

IMO the team is better than this but the Coaching has become stale, I think it's time for fresh blood. Maybe the thing to do is fire Jim Johnson and promote Harbaugh to Defensive coordinator(I think that is the plan for the future anyway) Lets not let another good young coach go... Espeially because they all seem to come back and bite this team in the ass. The last coach Reid and Co let go is now running the D up in NY... OK so that should come close to fixing the D coaching, then Lurie has to take control of Reid and make sure someone disconnects his headset so he can't be involved in the playcalling AT ALL!!! He has lost his team, IF Marty can't do it then it's simple in the offseason Jeff and Joe "let Reid retire to be with his family" then hire an Offensive caoch, and by offensive I mean able to call productive non-predictable offensive plays not call a game that is offensive to watch...

I am utterly disgusted and as of right now think I am going to find something better to do with that 3-3.5 hours a week I used to spend on the this team, at least until the coaching problem has been fixed, and this is coming from the biggest homer on the board....

I can only hope the rest of the Eagles faithful feel the same way, and absolutely NO ONE shows up for the rest of the games this season. Maybe then Lurie will get the message.

I love how the "Gold Standard" is a billion dollar entity now with a empty trophy case. Just listening to Al Michaels last night made me sick.

I would like to see fans start wearing bags over their heads. That would make for great TV.

This question of the day is from the chat with Ashley Fox:

whos (sic) going to have more wins the eagles or temple?

Headline of the Year:

Les Bowen

Dallas dominates, embarrasses feeble Eagles, destroying any and all hope

Talon,

Please don't ever quote Ashley Fox again.

Hulk, the question was asked of Ashley Fox.

I would tell you her answer...but you don't want to know.

Well I think she went to Nova so I can only imagine what she said.

Either way she can KMBA.

NTFF Hulk

Hulk you going Saturday?

It's Eckel, so take it with a HUGE grain of salt and also know his only Eagles source was Tom Modrak so he has axes upon axes to grind. Still, there's some truth in it and the only thing as fun as rooting for the Eagles is rooting against the front office:

Eagles' flop is Heckert's responsibility

Tuesday, November 06, 2007
BY MARK ECKEL
STAFF COLUMNIST

PHILADELPHIA -- Before the Eagles blow up their ros ter from this 2007 disaster, and you know that's inevitable, they should blow up the personnel department who put it together. If the Eagles are going to rebuild, and that's what it looks like as the team heads into the second half of the season with more wins than just St. Louis, Atlanta and San Francisco in the NFC, are the people who brought you Darren Howard and Jevon Kearse, the ones who drafted Winston Justice, Matt McCoy and Jeremy Bloom the ones you want to do it?

It's not a coincidence that since Tom Modrak and Mike McCartney were shown the door to a Nova Care Complex they never got a chance to work in, and Andy Reid became executive in charge of everything, the personnel department has suffered.

Reid's first move, the hiring of Tom Heckert (after several people said no) was the first in the long line of bad decisions.

Since Heckert arrived from Miami, and how is that team in South Florida that he and his dad built doing these days? Winless, you say, no surprise here.

Heckert wouldn't know talent if it walked into his office, and it would have to walk into his office since he never leaves the building.

See, all the great general managers of our time, Ron Wolf, George Young, Bobby Beathard had it wrong. You don't go out to college campuses and meet players and coaches to judge talent. You stay home, watch TV and make sure the big fellow gets his lunch on time.

At least he's doing that last thing well, because the big fellow hasn't missed many lunches.

Heckert's first moves as his title climbed from director of personnel to general manager were to get rid of any scout who even knew Modrak's name.

So Marc Ross, the mastermind behind the Eagles last good draft in 2002, and who is now overseeing the Giants scouting department, was fired and replaced by one of Heckert's cronies Jason Licht. Good scouts such as Dave Boller, now with Tampa, Richard Shelton, now with Tennessee, Rashaan Curry, now with Arizona and Jim Monos, now with New Orleans, were also canned as the new guy in charge filled the spots with "his people."

And that's why the Eagles' cur rent roster the one that is 3-5 on the way to 5-11, or maybe 6-10, looks as it does.

It's why the 2003 draft produced one player -- tight end L.J. Smith, who is playing his last year with the team. It's why the 2004 draft has guard Shawn Andrews and no one else worth a darn.

The Eagles' spin doctors, those both on and off their payroll and it's hard to tell which is which sometimes, brag about all the starters from the 2005 draft (six in all). But the truth is they are start ers on a team that is 3-5 and is win less in the division.

It's too soon to judge the past two drafts, but are you confident in anything this team does anymore? Nearly half of the 2007 draft has already been cut, and the other half can't get on the field.

The pro moves have been worse, a lot worse.

And that's not easy to be.

Kearse -- and this one we think came from team president Joe Banner as well as Reid, Heckert and everyone else in the organization -- has been the most overpaid and biggest disappointment, maybe in team history.

Howard has been worse.

Stunned during the start of free agency in 2006 when center Le Charles Bentley reneged on a ver bal deal and signed with Cleveland, the Eagles felt they had to do something. Enter Howard whose best days were long behind him.

In Sunday night's nationally-televised 38-17 loss to Dallas, the third prime time humiliation this season, Kearse and Howard combined for zero tackles. That's zero.

The Cowboys ran 57 plays (and gained 434 yards) and neither Kearse nor Howard was involved in any of them.

Tight end Matt Schobel, defensive tackle Ian Scott, cornerback Will James, and even linebacker Takeo Spikes, still looking for his first play as an Eagle after being ac quired from Buffalo in a trade, are the other name free agents this personnel department has sought out and signed.

Here's an exercise for you to do in your spare time. Go over the Eagles' current 53-man roster and circle the good players -- not solid players, not players the Eagles tell you are good -- the truly good players.

If you get to 10, you circled too many.

Then go over players who probably shouldn't be on the roster, or any other roster. When your hand gets tired, you're done.

Just like the Eagles.

I was just comin over here to paste this.

Sure, it's Eckel.
And yes, Modrak and he were 'boys'.

Fine.

That said- I laughed more than once, thought it was both scathing but accurrate far more than it wasn't and the best Eckel read in years.

WOW, I can't disagree with much of waht he said... part of the reason I like his writing

Ouch. While Eckel does write many of his articles like a woman scorned, he does hit on a lot of points.

NEAG,

No I am not going into the game. I sold'em to some PSU buddies of mine who didnt want to buy the three pack just to go to the one game. I will probably still tailgate tho.

That said- I laughed more than once, thought it was both scathing but accurrate far more than it wasn't and the best Eckel read in years.

The two things he left out were:

1. Heckert was also responsible for the 2002 draft that produced Lito, Westbrook, Sheldon, and Michael Lewis.

2. Modrak's record wasn't any better.

I'm happy to read the negative stuff when I'm interested in wallowing like this...just pointing out the 2 major flaws in the piece.

I also think Heckert has done a shitty job.

Wow, what a call out. And I think it's funny that Eckel calls Reid fat, when Eckel isn't exactly thin himself (though by sportswriter standards he's like Karen Carpenter).

THey really don't have 10 good players on the team. Sad.

Hulk, I have a wedding Sat afternoon, but with the noon start I may try for the tailgate

Nasty, nasty stuff.

Even if he does have some inconsistencies (and how responsible was Heckert for the 2002 draft?), we haven't heard this type of scathing writing about the Eagles in a long time. Probably because the writers end up getting shipped to cover some D-III team in Idaho.

I'm with bass here, ". Heckert was also responsible for the 2002 draft that produced Lito, Westbrook, Sheldon, and Michael Lewis." they let Tommy boy go but don't you think all the evalutaion was already done and they knew who the guys they wanted/ranked were pretty much set when they let him go???

It depends on what you consider "good", but off the top of my head:

- Runyan
- Tra
- McNabb
- Cole
- Lito
- Sheldon
- Dawk
- Westbrook
- Patterson
- Bunkley
- Akers
- Andrews
- Jackson
- Herremans

That's 13 and you could make an argument for a few more (LJ and Spikes).

The problem for me is who are their great players?

Westbrook.

That is all.

At one time a couple of those guys were great, but they've been on the decline and the Birds haven't been able to replace them or even bring other "great" guys. No playmakers, which has always been the selling point of Reid's system.

TO, for all his faults, showed that great players can lift a system.

And I shudder to think how bad this offense would be had they let Westbrook go and let Ryan Moats run amuck.

Jesu Criste! Eckel is a bitter, bitter man. That's such a scathing indictment that you'd think it was written on this board first. While I loved reading every word of it, if he didn't throw in all of those infantile low blows (which were all quite hilarious), he might garner some modicum of respect as a writer.

Oh, and f-dallas, I'm sure this was unintentional, but I should point out that you forget to include the Schoboat.

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