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I agree with the article for the most part.


Are you saying that there's a double standard?

Listening to Fox's pre-game show, I almost swerved off the road listening to those guys jumps over themselves to defend Reid, saying that the judge's comments were "out of line" and "he doesn't know what's going on there", further saying that Reid needs "our support more than anything else".

At first I thought it was just the Coach's Fraternity defending one of their own, but as stated before, you can't defend when you have a different policy for your team than your family, especially if you run your team as a "strict disciplinarian".

The rumblings from Brown and Buck, not to mention discontent with the way he's handled McNabb (among guys being in contract years) make me wonder why him staying on can be a good thing for the team.

"I am resigning from the Eagles organization to focus on my family"

His guy has a perfect way out of his job... take it Andy! Who can fault him for that?

Fault him??? I'd give hime a standing ovation.

Fred_Barnett
RE: Eagles Beat Writers/Columnists With Balls
11/9/2007 12:21 PM

I agree with the article for the most part.


Are you saying that there's a double standard?





No question.

In hollywood

In sports

In everyday life- there's no question a double standard exists.


and I refer to it as the "Jackie Robinson"--- when some who's black messes up- at work, in politics, in sports- there's likely to be a bigger rush to judgement/"i told ya so" fallout.

But with INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY one can avoid all that.

Knowing that the playin field where judgement's concerned is uneven, only means you need to work harder to be sure it doesnt apply to you.

Work
harder


Jackie
Robinson

bass, I'll go one step further IF the team continues to fall further and further losing the next 3(yup I said it 3 the Dolphins too) I would say Reid has totally lost the team and that he resigns prior to the end of the season, for obvious reasons BUT he will appologize for taking the team down with him and get a HUGE pass from everyone... (but me of course)

No way Reid resigns before the last game..

Knowing that the playin field where judgement's concerned is uneven, only means you need to work harder to be sure it doesnt apply to you.

awesome

And yet another thing from Lucha Latte:

9. I think, still, that this is Donovan McNabb's last year in Philadelphia. Too much poisoned water under the bridge. He'll look good in Viking purple or Bear white next year.

Thought this was interesting (from Bowen):

Extra point

Fire up the toxic e-mails, here it comes: If this were 2006 and Jeff Garcia had completed 20 of 28 passes for 251 yards, four touchdowns, and no interceptions in a lively but uneven victory over a hated rival, fans would be talking about what a gritty competitor the QB is.

One of the TD passes was badly underthrown? Hey, he must have willed it into the receiver's hands with his pluck and verve. He missed a tight end in the red zone? Yeah, but he kept battling, didn't he? He fumbled while being sacked? Darn that offensive line! But the quarterback didn't hang his head, did he? Because he's a winner! The defense bailed him out with a goal-line stand? Why, he must have inspired them.

That was pretty much the tone every time Garcia threw four touchdown passes in an Eagles game ... or it would have been, if Garcia had ever thrown four touchdown passes in an Eagles game.

Last week, Donovan McNabb further inflamed his detractors, if that is even possible anymore, by answering truthfully when asked if he thought he got too much blame when things went wrong. By the time the spin cycle had worked its magic, it was determined that McNabb had pointed fingers at teammates (???) in an act of despicable cowardice.

The Eagles' own in-house media maestro, Dave Spadaro, proclaimed himself "shocked" by McNabb's remarks, a reaction that did not shock those of us who suspect the skids are officially being greased for McNabb's departure.

Given those suspicions, that was an interesting moment there at the end of the game, when Andy Reid pulled McNabb close and whispered to him.

"There's a lot of love there," McNabb said afterward, at least half-jokingly.

"I just thought he did a good job," Reid said yesterday. "I wanted to make sure he knew that right now. He had a tough week last week and he bounced back. He's been doing this a lot of years, but it doesn't hurt to be told that you did something good, and he did that."

I have to ask if the comments would be any different than any other backup QB in the league who replicated those same #s. AJ got a similar response in '02, so the fans infatuation with the backup QB has a lot to deal with it.

I'd like to know if Reid "apologized" to 5 for leaking that information out to Mini-Me earlier.

People say that, but it's just not true.

Feeley threw 6 TDs in 6 games while completing 55% of his passes and averaging less than 200 yards per game. Great considering he as a third string QB and a great run, but he didn't play all that well by normal QB standards.

True, but my point isn't really pointing out that the backup QB is better (I mean, there are more examples that prove the opposite, aside from the backup being the backup). Just like the rubber pencil trick, most of the unwashed masses (those especially that call WIP (for entertainment purposes only)) believe the backup QB will automatically be better.

All I'm saying is that if Garcia had started (and not come in relief), that people would be clamoring for (eventually) AJ to start.

Right...just goes to the point that "people are morons"

This is exactly the point about Reid that's most baffling to me, from Phil Sheridan today:

" After the game, Reid said the Eagles' run-oriented approach was "what we planned on doing." But the numbers say otherwise. McNabb was in the game for 21 offensive plays - 13 called passes and eight called runs. After Feeley came in, there were 21 called passes and 27 called runs.

McNabb: 62 percent pass plays.

Feeley: 44 percent pass plays.

We can linger on why Reid would pretend the play-calling didn't change because McNabb was out. But the more interesting and ultimately era-defining issue is why Reid and his staff stubbornly refuse to give McNabb the benefit of a more-balanced offensive approach. Year after year, regardless of McNabb's health or the quality of his receivers or the state of the offensive line, Reid makes No. 5 throw the ball a ridiculous number of times.

On a cold, windy, wet day against the 30th-ranked run defense in the NFL, McNabb was throwing 62 percent of the time.

When the coaches turned to Brian Westbrook, the Eagles moved the ball, took pressure off their quarterback, and seized control of the game.

It's hard to tell whether Reid's blind spot here is a kind of compliment - he just believes McNabb can and will do the impossible - or a sign he's hell-bent on getting McNabb maimed. There is ample evidence for both theories."

Not a bad article from Rich, all things considered.

Of course, he fails to mention Reid's involvement on the personnel side, but baby steps, Rich - baby steps.

It's not you, stupid; it's me

From the pen of...Spuds!

The Day After: Time For Reflection

This isn't about the 28-24 loss to Seattle. I mean, you can look at that game and find all of the warts of this season rolled into one miserable afternoon and find all the reasons you want to explain why this Eagles team is lurching along at 5-7, clinging to the thread of post-season hopes. The theory in the NFL is that, hey, get into the playoffs and anything is possible. Certainly, should the Eagles win the next four games and make it in -- I can't imagine 8-8 would work with the conference record; the Eagles are 3-6 in the NFC -- then we all have reason to be excited.

But let's be realistic here. The goal is to have a Super Bowl-winning team. The goal is to win the Super Bowl every year. Are the Eagles, based on their first 12 games of this season, capable of winning the Super Bowl?

Nobody with any reason can say yes. This is an underperforming roster and a coaching staff that has not gotten the most from the players. Who is to blame? Everyone, starting at the very top and working all the way down. You win as a team and you lose as a team.

What is abundently clear from this perspective is that, based on these 12 games, based on what the best teams put on the field on a weekly basis, is that the Eagles don't have enough players who make a difference. They have Brian Westbrook, the best player in the league maybe. He is a marvelous, amazing, worth-the-price-of-admission talent.

And they have nobody else who is in that class of player.

And that, more than anything else, is what separates the Eagles from the best teams in the league.

Oh, there are plenty of good football players here. There are plenty of pretty good football players here. This is a roster full of players with whom you can win a Super Bowl -- with a few more players leading the way who make a difference.

Donovan McNabb, when totally healthy and right, is that kind of player, but we haven't seen that performer this season. He is coming back from the serious knee injury and now has the sprained ankle and swollen thumb from which to heal. Wide receivers? I like Kevin Curtis a lot. He is on track to catch 70-something passes and score a half dozen touchdowns (not enough for a lead receiver) and gain more than 1,100 yards. Good player. Reggie Brown? I thought he was on his way to a breakthrough season, and I thought he was ready to become one of the emerging stars of the position, but that hasn't been the case.

Tight end L.J. Smith is a good player and I would like to keep him, but does he make a difference? Is he a true star?

You can go up and down the roster and point out players and say, "Yeah, good player. I like him. But does he make a difference?"

Too often, the answer is no.

The only one who qualifies this year is Westbrook.

On defense, Brian Dawkins has been that difference-maker in his career, but he isn't making a difference this season. Neither is Lito Sheppard, nor is Sheldon Brown (although he is making more plays than any other defensive back) and neither is Takeo Spikes. Good players, all. I want them on my team. But they aren't making the difference.

Look, I'm not going to go into what ails the Eagles on a point-by-point basis. They have truly been in one of those awful seasons when you look at the games and say, "Geez, a play here or a play there and maybe ..." Great. Wonderful. That is too convenient, too tidy. A great team, a Super Bowl-caliber team, wins the close games and puts together blowouts and intimidates opponents on a weekly basis. Being close to a playoff team isn't very satisfying at all.

There are four weeks remaining in the season. While I know some of you want to tear it all apart and play the young guys -- Kevin Kolb, Victor Abiamiri, Tony Hunt, etc. -- I am still in favor of playing the best players Sunday against the Giants. I look forward to seeing a healthy McNabb play -- nothing is official, certainly, but McNabb is expected to be healthy enough to go -- and seeing if he can lend a spark to the team against a hated NFC East opponent that embarrassed the Eagles early in the season on national television.

I certainly look forward to every game. I love Eagles football. I want to continue to see how this all plays out, because in the end I was as guilty as anyone of believing that this team was a championship-ready team. I never saw 5-7 coming. I never saw a season that included losses because the Eagles couldn't execute in the punt return game (Green Bay), score in the red zone (Washington), stop a 97-yard touchdown drive in the final two minutes (Chicago) and throw game-ending interceptions in the red zone (New England, Seattle). Losing at the Giants without all of those starters and then having a much better Dallas team flex its muscles at Lincoln Financial Field, hey, those games were tough to watch.

It also isn't fair to blame one series or play for the losses in Green Bay or to Washington or against Chicago or in these last two weeks. The Eagles simply haven't been good enough to win games they would have won in the past. Conclusion? Good teams win those games, hands down.

Nobody is giving up. I'm not. I'm terribly depressed today, yes, and I'm also angry that the season has played out the way it has played out. It is not time to look to the off-season. Four games remain and there is some drama at quarterback and some players to continue to harshly evaluate.

But the bottom line is this: The Eagles have not played like a Super Bowl-caliber team. Thus, everything here must be evaluated fairly, honestly, harshly. Five wins and seven losses is not where the Eagles want to be. It is not acceptable.

The Eagles need more Westbrooks. They need more players who can make a difference. That is the glaring absence on this middle-of-the-road team.

because in the end I was as guilty as anyone of believing that this team was a championship-ready team.

sucker

The best part about the roster decisions is how it all went down.

They were soooooooooo good before the draft they felt they "didn't have any needs". Based on that assumption, they traded their first round pick and drafted for depth.

As it turns out, they are just very average in a lot of spots (which wasn't a shock to most people upside the organization).

They drafted 8 players in the spring. 5 made the team. Their two second round picks and 3rd round pick have been activated for a total of 10 games and their stat line is:

13 rushes
14 yards
1 TD
1 fumble
1 tackle

That's just awfully bad. Yuck.

This team, according to Banner, was better than the one that made the Super Bowl.

Every time I think of that, I chortle.

why is thomas tapeh still starting. he never does anything. the westcoast offense requires a FB that can catch passes. why did we let go of stallworth, garcia,trotter,shawn barber, dhani jones, michael lewis, rod hood, freddie mitchell,and T.O. these are good players. why didn't jabbar gaffney ever get any playing time.( he's good enough for new england) kevin curtis is a slot receiver. reggie brown is not starting caliber he doesnt get open. joselio hansen is maybe the worst cover man i've ever seen. william james isn't far behind him. winston justice is the worst OT of all-time. who gives up 6 sacks in one game. andy reids playcalling is stupid and predictable. you would think he would invest in recievers since he wants to pass everydown. the west coast offense isnt just throwing screen passes every down. mcnabb is an unaccurate passer, watch carefully he throws the ball at peoples feet a lot and sits in the pocket too long. the loss of his mobility has rendered him useless. we have a great RB, a solid line, and a solid defense. we can build on that if lurie would dig in those pockets and sign a big play reciever and keep what we already have.

why didn't jabbar gaffney ever get any playing time.

I know it was you, Fredo in 736.

Um, no.

BUT- does anyone know what happened between Reid and LEs Bowen testerday at the press conf.?

Apparently a big dust up?

It was Les. He made a comment or two to Les, but he got into a fight with a different guy.

Les asked him why he only ran the ball 1 time in the first quarter given the field condition/early INT. Reid basically said "We were doing what we thought we needed to in order to win. You can write that we should have run the ball more, Les, but we were doing what we needed to in order to win the game"

The guy he freaked out on was John Mebane or something like that. He asked Reid a dumb question about "how badly McNabb wanted to play" (after Reid had already said McNabb wanted to play but he shut him down because he wasn't healthy). Reid just stared at him and the reporter said "What was his reaction when you told him he wasn't going to play...was he upset?".

At that point Reid lost it and yelled at the guy. he told him to "clean out his ears" and told him the question was stupid.

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