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Should be "It was NOT Les"

we were doing what we needed to in order to win the game

Well, clearly...

That guy was on WIP (for entertainment purposes only) discussing his side of the story. Nothing too earth-shattering, but he did say that there's stuff going on behind the scenes that some people are just DYING to talk about; some stuff that's personal. he said that once McNabb leaves the team, he'll probably reveal a lot of the stuff that's been going on.

One can only wonder what's going on in the Novacare Complex.

Was the guy saying he knew stuff that was going on, or people with the team are dying to spill the beans, but can't until he's gone?

Both.

He said that he talked to Rhea the Toad about it, but he can't go public with it for whatever reason (he's not the only one that knows about it; seemingly all the writers are in the know but don't want to pull the trigger). It's like they're either waiting for the season to end, McNabb to walk (so he can say it and not the writers who still want to be cushy with Reid) or what have you.

I don't think we'll know everything that goes on in there (duh), but there's a lot of undercover stuff that's festering beneath, and I have to wonder if it's only McNabb that will say something.

That's bullshit. They are fucking sports reporters...if they know something they should report it.

Are they the press corps for Chamelot or something?

And here's Les with his weekly battering of FB:

Les Bowen | FURTHER REVIEW: The bottom line - Birds need to let Westbrook run


IT'S A head-scratcher, all right.

At his weekly postmortem news conference yesterday, Andy Reid noted that his team "struggled to sustain drives" in the second half of a crippling, 28-24 home loss to the Seattle Seahawks. Indeed, in the fourth quarter, I have the Eagles gaining 9, 6, 16 and 3 yards on their four possessions, ending with the Lofa Tatupu interception that kept Brian Westbrook's 64-yard punt return from mattering.

Westbrook is the only difference-maker the Eagles currently employ, a view that now has even been embraced by the team's official Web site. Yet the punt return was one of very few chances he had down the stretch to win the game - Westbrook carried three times on those

final four series, for 11 yards. He caught two passes, for 4 yards.

Meanwhile, four passes went to Kevin Curtis, two completed, for 12 yards. Two passes were aimed toward L.J. Smith (including the infamous down-the-sideline long toss on third-and-1). None completed. A.J. Feeley scrambled for 4 yards, and was sacked while scrambling, for a loss of 1. Correll Buckhalter gained 4 yards on a draw. Two passes went toward Reggie Brown, including the final, fatal interception. Nothing came from those.

Westbrook carried the ball once, in the Eagles' final three series. So it really is puzzling, isn't it, why those drives weren't more successful. Gosh, who can say?

What's that? They could have run the ball a little more, given that all afternoon, defenders were slipping and sliding when they tried to react to cuts in the open field? Maybe if Westbrook can go out there for two fourth-quarter punts, and bring one of them back 64 yards, he might do something equally dangerous, if they handed him the ball a few more times?

"We were trying to win the football game the best way we could. If you think he should have run it more, then that's what you'll write, there, but we were trying to do what we needed to do to win the game at the time," Reid said when asked about that yesterday.

Reid opined that the only thing to do in the wake of defeat is "learn from your mistakes and move on," something this 5-7 season has afforded the Eagles bountiful opportunities to do. Yet Reid and his offensive coordinator, Marty Mornhinweg, don't seem to embrace the concept.

The Eagles point to successful teams such as New England and Indianapolis, even Green Bay, as examples of pass-based offenses that win (leaving aside the fact that the Patriots rank seventh in the league in rushing). They think this validates their approach. And it would if they had the quarterbacking and the weapons that those teams possess. But they don't, right now.

In terms of offensive talent right now, the Eagles are actually more like the middle-of-the-pack teams they are fighting against for a shred of wild-card hope. Like, say, the 8-4 Giants, who come to Lincoln Financial Field on Sunday with the league's sixth-ranked rushing attack.

if they know something they should report it.

No doubt, FD, but even you have to admit there's a lot of crap going on back there.

Even if we assume they're keeping quiet because they don't want to get sent to Siberia a la Mark Eckel, they probably don't want to disrupt the rest of the season.

I don't think it's right, because they should let the public know what's going on and give them insight to a team that's either underachieving or achieving what realistic people expected.

All I know is what I've said from jump - this is going to get ugly.

Last line of Bob Ford's column is somewhat of a head-scratcher:

Still, let's be serious. It ain't going to happen. One of those teams will take advantage of a more forgiving schedule, and the Eagles are going to lose in Dallas and probably cough up another game as they did on Sunday. Make them 7-9 and forget about it. That is what a reasonable observer would conclude.

It could be what Reid has determined as well, which might ultimately explain the uncharacteristic sarcasm directed toward the players and the snappishness directed toward the media. And after all we've done for him, too.

No doubt, FD, but even you have to admit there's a lot of crap going on back there.

I have no clue what's going on because those weasels haven't reported anything.

I'd love to hear it if they had anything, though.

Cant link it- but MAN did G Cobb sound off and he's in full blown "hatin the media" mode- only 1 issue;
he's media now.

NTF! This is great. It has the normal Mr. Potato Head style (run on sentences, no punctuation, etc.), but he also manages to disparage both women and homosexuals with his analogies...so good.

Eagles May Be Following The Sixers

Written by Garry Cobb
Tuesday, 04 December 2007
Last night the Philadelphia 76ers played a game at the Wachovia Center in front of a bunch of empty seats. At the same time, they then fired their General Manager Billy King but nobody cares about either event. Fools in the media want the Eagles to repeat this act.

When Donovan McNabb heads out of Philadelphia, he will be leaving as one of the top three winningest quarterbacks in the decade. The only two guys ahead of him are Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. All the stupid media in town does is dwell on what he can't do and focus on nonsense. When he leaves and we're stuck with question marks at quarterback, everybody will be thinking about what a healthy McNabb can do. They'll be thinking about his scrambling ability and strong arm. Plus the fools will be able to check him on the highlights every week because he'll be back to full strength and playing for another team.

I can't believe some of the dumb reasons why people want to trade him. Philly fans and the media here are like a bunch of fickle women who can't be happy with anything. They're like a nagging wife who does nothing but whine and complain about nonsense like what players wear after the games and what they say in the interviews. I apologize to the women for using that analogy because a dumb guy is worse that a dumb women because more women tend to not be so prideful that they will admit a mistake. Guys will march to their grave over a dumb mistake rather than admit that they have made a mistake.

This type of stupidity makes a big deal out of how A.J. took full responsibility for blowing the last two games, by starting the game out with an interception and ending it with an interception. We need players who can play, not run for mayor. The Sixers just fired a politician in Billy King, who knew how to say all the right things but couldn't judge talent. Notice that the local media has been easy on him. This guy was here for ten years, but should he have been. Good players will say the wrong thing some times especially when they're interveiwed ad nauseum like McNabb is. There's no way in the world you can do that many interviews and always says what everybody wants to hear. It becomes even more a problem when its the media's time of the month, which always seems to be the case.

Fickle fans and the menstruating media, place as much importance on how a guy sits on the bench, as how good of player he is. Stupid stuff like facial expressions are supposed to be a big deal. They care more about quotes than how he plays. I can understand this in a romantic relationship but we need a quarterback not somebody to date. I don't care about all that nonsense.

I'm starting to think that a lot of the guys who cover the Eagles are in the closet because they make such a big deal out of this stuff.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have any thing against talking about what players wear and what they say, as entertainment, but we're not keeping and getting rid of guys based on that type of nonsense. I also don't care about what a player's mother says. If Wilma McNabb had never done the Chunky soup commercial or started her own weblog we still would have lost to the New Orleans Saints last year. Only somebody who doesn't know anything about the game would seriously believe this is really that important.

McNabb saying that everybody on the team needed to play better is nothing. Also if you've noticed down in Dallas that the only person who can control Terrell Owens has started controlling him. That guy is Terrell Owens. Somebody in the media should cover how Joe Banner couldn't stomach giving Owens more money, but he has no problem being robbed Jevon "The Thief" Kearse and Darren "The Bandit" Howard, the whole time they've been here. I've heard there's an A.P.B. out for Kearse, who wasn't spotted doing anything during the Seahawk game.

I'm going to get in a good laugh when the sponsors who shell out big money to the local media and the Eagles, decide that don't to pay out the big bucks for a team that has no chance of making the playoffs. Kevin Kolb may know how to say what Philly wants him to say at the post game news conference but will it matter if the team is losing. I'll be smiling and Donovan McNabb will be somewhere smiling, and being thankful that he escapes all this nonsense.

There's a lot of truth in that piece.

Yeah, there is.

However, he kinda ignores the main issue in assuming McNabb will come back healthy, stay healthy, and return to his 2000 through 2004 form.

Kolb being unknown doesn't make McNabb a bankable commodity either.

Hell, if you could guarantee McNabb gets healthy, stays healthy, and his game picks up again, no one in the Eagles organization would trade him.

That line about TO and Jevon Kearse was awesome. Absolutely awesome and probably GCobb sounds a bit bitter, much?

It really reads like he's related to McNabb.

Why would Gcobb be smiling if the Eagles are losing? he wants them to lose if they decide McNabb's diminished play isn't good enough to win it all and they need to start rebuilding?

Doesn't make sense.

I've always been a big McNabb supporter, but the guy hasn't been healthy in a long time, hasn't been playing well, and gets paid a ton of money. Just assuming he'll return to his 2004 form after missing all these games and at age 32 isn't going to guarantee it will happen.

Especially in an offense that guarantees that he has the chance to get blown to bits about 50 times a game.

I have to wonder what GCobb knows about the whole situation as well, and wondering if he's siding with McNabb over whatever.

Didn't he side against TO when that whole issue happened?

And I really do believe McNabb is gone, based on what GCobb's saying (and not just because he said it earlier in the year).

Sure, 5 could be healthy and sure, the offense could be back to even 2002-2003 levels. But who knows how the relationship between 5 and FB is, even after the wet willy FB gave him a couple of weeks ago?

Didn't he side against TO when that whole issue happened?

If he did, then his whole "judge him on how he plays, not on his personality" speech is hypocritical to say the least.

There is a big difference between being a unfunny/terrible beard-having crybaby and being a derisive/confrontational pill popping jerkoff. JMO.

Please admit that he wasn't a "derisive/confrontational pill popping jerkoff" in Philadelphia until the Eagles wouldn't pay him what he was worth and McNabb wouldn't back the best receiver he ever had. Sometimes I wonder if McNabb even deserved to have a superior playmaker at WR.
My guess is he learned that lesson real quick- i.e. the Westbrook situation.

Edit:

and McNabb wouldn't back one of the best receivers in NFL history and a definite (unlike McNabb) Hall of Famer.

There. I fixed it for me.

Telling people not to talk to you, having fights with team members/employees while still UNDER CONTRACT is not how you ge things done. Granted Banner and Reid could have handled the situation differently but its totally different than people commenting on if you smile too much. I know your man love for T.O blinds you to this fact but thats the reality of the matter. T.O is not here cause of T.O not because of Supah 5 did or didnt do.

He doesnt write checks.

T.O is not here cause of T.O not because of Supah 5 did or didnt do.

I think McNabb's voice could have if not gotten him the check, at least could have helped placate T.O. But him seemingly playing the "nonchalnt card" and seemingly (rightly or wrongly) taking management's side- was idiotic and egotistical in it's own right. Too bad it took T.O. saying "FU! I'm out then" for everybody to realize it.

Yes Hulk, my man-love for superior wide receivers runs deep.

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