silver_n_blue

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10/29/2007 9:35 AM




I know there is a lot of different opinions about whether it is OK to run up the score. I really don't see any reason for it. When your up by 40+ points and still going for it on 4th and 2 twice in the 4th quarter just kills me. Maybe they are going for the record amount of points scored in an NFL season. THe Rams hold the record and certainly didnt do it trying to run up the score. It is classless and why risk the health of your players.

I am just waiting for someone to take a cheap shot on Brady, because they will be screwed without him.




Fred_Barnett

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10/29/2007 9:38 AM




There's only one time when running up the score is okay-

when the Eagles are kicking the crap out of the Cowboys.




silver_n_blue

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10/29/2007 9:42 AM




I think it may be a long time before you see that happen again..




SeeZakRun

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10/29/2007 9:44 AM




It's not wrong or "classless" to do this to other teams, but it's irresponsible and pig-headed to jeopardize your own franchise.

There's much more parity in the NFL than 20-30 years ago, so the notion of the "poor, helpless team" is kinda bullshit. Play better and you won't get embarrassed. Stop them on 4th down and you get the ball back. And so forth.




Fred_Barnett

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10/29/2007 9:53 AM




I think it may be a long time before you see that happen again..

no shit




f-dallas

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10/29/2007 10:20 AM




I think it may be a long time before you see that happen again.

With Wade Phillips at the helm and 2 45 year old receivers, I'm thinking the Cowboys aren't going on a 10 year run here.




f-dallas

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10/29/2007 10:22 AM




The running up the score issue...

It's a slap in the face. You're embarrassing people, you're setting a bad example for kids, and it's just poor sportsmanship.

If they want to keep doing, they are free to do so. However, I'm hoping that karma comes knocking and they lose Brady while running up the score.




silver_n_blue

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10/29/2007 10:47 AM




FD,
With Crayton, Hurd, and Austin in the wings along with 2 first round daft picks next year I am not as concerned about that positon as I am about your 45 yr old QB situation.




KeithByars

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10/29/2007 10:56 AM




McNabb is only 31 and not here for long.

Crayton hasn't shown much at all with a chance to show a lot, Hurd has 11 catches in 2 years, and Austin hasn't touched a football in two years.




silver_n_blue

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10/29/2007 11:27 AM




KB,
My incorrect age of McNabb was sarcastic in that FD called the boys' recievers 45. Glenn and Owens are 33.

Crayton has 26 receptions for 400 yards, 4 TD's. Hurd and Austin have not had a lot of touches because they are backups. Both had great preseason's. This is the only chance these 2 will get barring injury.

While I am defending the Cowboys backup recievers, I cant think of 1 starting reciever on the eagles that would not concern me.




KeithByars

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10/29/2007 11:29 AM




Crayton's numbers are inflated by an amazing game against St. Louis. That's the only great game he's had all year. He may be a steady receiver, but he probably won't be very good. That was my point.

Then, the other two guys get you excited b/c of one good preseason in two years. What is their to base any optimism on?




silver_n_blue

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10/29/2007 11:41 AM




KB,

I am not saying they are going to be the next breakout recievers. I just don't think that the boys' are in a panic button situation (because of 45 yr old recievers). Free Agency is always good for one good receiever. TO will have 2-3 years left. Glenn maybe good for another 1-3. They are not in dire straits.




KeithByars

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10/29/2007 11:44 AM




I think the words were "they're not built for a 10 year run". Not "they're going to suck next year"




f-dallas

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10/29/2007 11:47 AM




FD,
With Crayton, Hurd, and Austin in the wings along with 2 first round daft picks next year I am not as concerned about that positon as I am about your 45 yr old QB situation.


NTFF! First, He's 3.5 years older than Romo. Second, as KB pointed out, he's likely going to be traded.

Second, all those receivers you listed are average (at best) players.

They may address WR with the draft, but I was simply pointing out that the Cowboys aren't exactly setup for a 10 year run of NFC dominance, IMO.




silver_n_blue

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10/29/2007 12:27 PM




I agree, no they are not setup for a 10 yr run, but then again who is.

McNabb is only 3.5 yrs older with 10,000 more hits. By the way, who is waiting in the wings for the eagles at QB?




f-dallas

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10/29/2007 12:37 PM




12 months ago, Romo the Golden God was an undrafted clown without a snap of pro experience, so let's not pretend a All-Pro QB has to be established as an All-Pro from the bench before he plays...m'kay?




KeithByars

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10/29/2007 12:46 PM




McNabb is only 3.5 yrs older with 10,000 more hits. By the way, who is waiting in the wings for the eagles at QB?

Kolb




silver_n_blue

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10/29/2007 12:54 PM




Who said he was an all-pro? I didnt think we were talking about romo here. Since you are, it is funny how you forget how much trouble you had looking for a QB before McNabb came to town. How many years? By having Romo sit and develop for a few years did him a world of good. Could he have done what he's doing if they threw him in their after his first year? I doubt it.

The one thing I can say about the cowboys is that they are now a deep team because of Parcells. They can draft best available player now. They don't have to reach, they can trade down. The eagles are far from having that benifit. Actually, I can't even think of a position that doesnt need help.




f-dallas

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10/29/2007 1:00 PM




I wasn't calling Romo an All-Pro.

I was responding to your question of "who do the Eagles have to step in" by pointing out that the "next guy" is often an unknown who proves ready when he gets his shot.

Kevin Kolb is going to be that guy for better or worse.

And as far as the Cowboys depth and the thin Eagles, you're high (as usual).

The Boys are a better team than the Eagles this year, but they are razor thin at CB, have issues at safety, and are average at best on the defensive line.

On offense, they're questionable at a couple offensive line spots and both their running backs and QB are about to be free agents, so they have some work to do there.

The Eagles have plenty of depth and more than the Cowboys. They simply need a couple impact guys to come on board or establish themselves.




Johnson

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10/29/2007 1:08 PM




You guys might as well get the Eagles/Cowboys thread going for the week.




starless

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10/29/2007 8:41 PM




"The Boys are a better team than the Eagles this year, but they are razor thin at CB, have issues at safety, and are average at best on the defensive line."

As razor thin as they may be, I think the Cowboy defense will be okay against your QB and his WRs. As has been frequently pointed out here, you have one playmaker.

"The Eagles have plenty of depth and more than the Cowboys. They simply need a couple impact guys to come on board or establish themselves."

So what's keeping these 'impact guys' from landing in Philly?

Geez, you guys have been whining about the level of talent Reid has assembled and now you're saying your deeper in talent than Dallas?

Funny how Cowboy week has you jumping back on the bandwagon.




Seth in 736

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10/29/2007 10:14 PM




Starless, cmon man - i know youre a good guy and the nice start has to have ya feelin good-

I havent complained a lot about the depth/roster Reid's put together, and I think The Boys' secondary is a joke, and I also think Dallas could be in trouble come Sunday nite.

Honestly.




OxfordEagle

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10/29/2007 11:41 PM




You do, Seth?
Maybe the Eagles defense will rock, but who has really tested them this year?
And the offense only looked good because of who they were playing. Remember McNabb's inconsistency last year when he was healthy? This Marty Mornhingweh explosiveness stuff is a crap shoot when a shaky McNabb makes the plays by buying time. The Eagles need some quick short sure-thing pass plays like the Packers had in their first game against the Eagles.




starless

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10/30/2007 12:18 AM




Seth, trouble is a definite possibility, but the secondary has been slowly improving since the first couple games...they were a real joke against the Giants in week one.

I guess I haven't seen the Birds enough this year to be afraid of McNabb picking them apart. The Cowboys offensive penalties scare me more right now than the secondary getting burned by McNabb.

Westbrook on the other hand is real scary, especially if Andy decides to use him more than Childress used Peterson two weeks ago...don't understand why they only ran him a dozen times.

This game at the Linc could easily go your way. A split was all I'd hoped for at the start of the season but watching the season unfold, I can't help but think a sweep is possible this year.





f-dallas

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10/30/2007 10:16 AM




As razor thin as they may be, I think the Cowboy defense will be okay against your QB and his WRs. As has been frequently pointed out here, you have one playmaker.

The Cowboys defense should be able to handle the Eagles offense with few problems. McNabb is playing terrible, terrible football for the most part this year and I expect him to continue struggling against anything but bad defenses. If McNabb were to some how get on a roll, the offense would start moving again, though (I just don't think that's going to happen).


So what's keeping these 'impact guys' from landing in Philly?

Geez, you guys have been whining about the level of talent Reid has assembled and now you're saying your deeper in talent than Dallas?

Funny how Cowboy week has you jumping back on the bandwagon.


Not at ALL. What the Eagles do as well as anyone in the league is identifying solid NFL players. They just have a knack for it and almost always have a young guy ready to step in and start when an older guy leaves. That's why they had to listen to the "window closing" stuff every year and would come back without problems the next season. Think about how many times the "closing window" story was written about the Eagles and how they just kept on winning? That's a product of their superior depth.

With that said, what the Eagles struggle to do is identify impact player. Players who can change a game on their own with superior skill, talent, and playmaking ability.

McNabb was a playmaker...he isn't one now. Dawk is a playmaker...he isn't one now with the injury and won't be the rest of this year (maybe ever, with his advancing age). Lito is a playmaker, but he's had injury problems and is still getting up to speed now, so he's not one right now.

Westbrook is a playmaker. He's the only one they have.

Trent Cole is closing in on being a difference making player. He's very close.

The problem with the Eagles is they don't have a hole on their team offensively or defensively and they have great depth, but there is simply a lack of playmaking guys who can take over a game on offense or defense, which is one of the reasons they are coming up short.

The Cowboys have worse depth and have some holes on their team, but they also have about 5 guys currently making game-changing types of plays and that's why they are the better team right now.




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