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Ah, Zak's talking about the int thrown against Tennessee? Still counts.

How bad do you have to be at evaluating talent and needs when the fans are ecstatic over the signing of Reno Mahe?

Other failures:

Trading for Mark Simoneau. It was the beginning of the "fastball" era.

Matt Where in the 2nd round.

Putting together teams with absolutely no friggin heart (but with character).

Forgot Simonass.....further testimony that Reid is COMPLETELY unaware of what constitutes a good LB.

Also forgot Ware.....good calls.

True, but he also TRADED Simenou, getting some value back.

His list of failures AND successes are both so long it would almost impossible to name them all.

Bottom line (to me) is his greatest success was building an organization and philosophy that allowed the Eagles to become one of the 5 or so most successful and popular franchises in the country over the past 9 years.

The biggest failure was the fact that they consistently sacrificed 1 Super Bowl victory for their dream of 4 Super Bowls. His inexperience/inflexibility were ultimately too much to overcome.

Moral of the story as I'm looking at it all in hindsight is they had a bird in their hand for 5 seasons but gave it up every year in exchange for a dynasty in the bush.

What should keep those assholes up at night is how many years they fell a game or field goal short with $10- $20 million in cap space so they could hand out mid-season extensions to every draft pick that didn't immediately prove to be a bust.

He's pretty fat

The Reid era can be summed up in one name: Reno Mahe.

What should keep those assholes up at night is how many years they fell a game or field goal short with $10- $20 million in cap space so they could hand out mid-season extensions to every draft pick that didn't immediately prove to be a bust.

You mean while they are counting their money in the teller line?

With the Eagles being worth over a billion dollars now I am sure Banner and Lurie sleep just fine on their pillows made of money.

This would be a great place to insert a clip of that knob crying "I HATE YOU!" from the Panthers game.

Biggest Reid success: Actually taking a team that was in the crapper and molding them into a team that was expected to lose the NFCC game every year...

Biggest Reid failure: Taking that same team back to the level of being a bunch of unwatchable losers who seem to have just been going through the motions for the better part of 2 seasons now.

One success is he's been successfully cloned:

L.J. Smith
L.J. Smith
L.J. Smith
L.J. Smith
L.J. Smith
L.J. Smith...

I can't say it enough, I'm done with this stiff.

Can't block, he's usually hurt and he fumbles frequently.

I can't believe Reid passed on Witten to draft this stiff.

Kills me.

Biggest success: Donovan McNabb

Biggest failure: Britt and Garrett

You know what's funny? For all the jabs we sent Chad Lewis' way, he's a better player than LJ Smith.

I don't think LJ is a bad player. I think he's a pretty good blocker at this point and I think he's an above average TE.

Lewis had one really good year and a couple okay ones, but the reality is they are complete opposites. Lewis was a far more consistent player and it felt like he was better with the game in the balance (big first downs, touch downs, etc.).

LJ is a flashier player, but he loses concentration, doesn't protect the ball, and disappears for weeks at a time.

Statistically, LJ averages about twice as many yards per game as Chad.

I just loved making fun of Lewis go after his YAC, but I keep hoping LJ adopts his "stop, drop, and roll" philosophy to protect the ball at this point.

...and compared to Witten instead of Chad Lewis?

I know it goes against your every fiber to praise a Cowboy... but even you have to admit passing on Witten to take an "above average" TE is a blunder on Reid's part.

The problem is, taking LJ fits into the "diamonds in the rough" philosophy of drafting. He wants to prove how smart he is by taking the project and making him a star.

The worst thing that happened was BWest. He's great enough for FB to hang his hat on and reenforces his beliefs.

That's not entirely fair. Draft scouting is hit or miss, and LJ Smith is somewhere in the middle. Most pundits thought he would be just as good as, if not better than, Dallas Clark or Jason Witten, two of the other premier tight ends from that draft.
If drafting was an exact science, Tom Brady would've gone first overall, not in the sixth round. The Patriots, the envy of the league, are still living high off that single stroke of luck. While the fat man may make some headscratching picks (Matt McCoy anyone?), none have been completely agonizing (Jon Harris in the 1st round ring a bell?).

I'll see your "Jon Harris" and I'll raise you a "Jerome McDougle".

Come on if he hadn't been shot he'd have started better than anyone... oh whatever the drafting sucks almost as bad as the girl I hooked up with the other night, never thought I'd ever say there is such a thing as a bad BJ...

I know it goes against your every fiber to praise a Cowboy... but even you have to admit passing on Witten to take an "above average" TE is a blunder on Reid's part.

Oh, I love Witten as a player.

When they took LJ that year, I was a little disgusted but gave them the benefit of the doubt. Witten was available that year, as well as Dallas Clark.

Witten was a certifiable first round pick and started plummeting because of a poor 40 time (I think), but I was really hoping for one of those two guys.

never thought I'd ever say there is such a thing as a bad BJ...

Wow, things really aren't going your way when this happens. First Tat dons robes, now this. I think we need to put this boy on suicide watch. :-)

What I meant was that everyone knew Jon Harris sucked the minute he was picked. McDougle was highly touted, and a lot of people (even on this board) congratulated the FO on having the balls to move up and get him. It's easy to say that the Eagles made poor draft choices now. That doesn't mean that the Eagles' FO are idiots, just that their scouting was off, just like the scouting of every other team that passed on gems to pick up scrubs. It happens every year.
I guess what I'm saying is that there are plenty of opportunities for appropriate criticism with the Eagles and Reid. Selecting LJ over Witten, IMO, just isn't one of them.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying AZ...

I'm merely going on the fact that Witten was the top ranked TE coming out that year and Reid decided to outsmart everybody by taking the 2nd or 3rd ranked guy. Not uncommon for any team to do.

Maybe they felt L.J.'s skill set fit in better with their offense... but I remember comparisons to Shockey at the time and L.J. is definitely not reminding anyone of Shockey. Witten on the other hand is in that category.

Just sucks that they were this close to notching a legitimate weapon for McNabb but alas... screwed up again.

We all blast Reid for his linebacker and WR drafts... but look at his TEs:

Jed Weaver
Tony Stewart
L.J. Smith
Stephen Spach (undrafted FA

Again... for a coach who loves to throw the ball, he has failed here too.

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