Fred_Barnett

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11/30/2007 11:55 AM




Ezekiel:34

1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 "Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel; prophesy and say to them: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Woe to the shepherds of Israel who only take care of themselves! Should not shepherds take care of the flock? 3 You eat the curds, clothe yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not take care of the flock. 4 You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally. 5 So they were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered they became food for all the wild animals. 6 My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. They were scattered over the whole earth, and no one searched or looked for them.

Jules
25:17

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.






bassiladelph

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11/30/2007 11:59 AM




Fagel, you also must've figured out where to get a really good pair of kicks.




fågelpojke

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11/30/2007 12:48 PM




No dice Bass, we were poor. Mom always bought me a pair of BoBos from JCPennys on Chelten, right before the school year started and I had to make them last until June.

I did learn how to convert a stolen shopping cart and a lawnmower engine into a real boss mini-bike, how to get to Center City w/o paying on Septa & to carry a dummy wallet to drop when some dudes want your dough.

All skills that haven't translated well into my new Nordic environment.




Fred_Barnett

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11/30/2007 12:53 PM




Police May Have Break In Taylor's Shooting

POSTED: 11:34 am EST November 30, 2007

MIAMI -- Local 10 has learned Miami-Dade police homicide detectives are in Fort Myers looking at two or three people who may be linked to the shooting death of Washington Redskins safety and former University of Miami Hurricanes star Sean Taylor.

Local 10's Rad Berky is reporting that investigators are treating the lead as a possible major break in the case.

Investigators removed a large amount of physical evidence from Taylor's Palmetto Bay home after he was shot early Monday morning. Berky has learned that evidence can place the two or three people in the house.


Miami-Dade police spokeswoman Lt. Nancy Perez would only confirm that homicide detectives are in Fort Myers, but she would not say why.

Taylor's mother on Thursday said she has her own ideas about the death of her son but prefers to keep them to herself and let the police investigation play out.

"It's very hard to say," said Donna Junor. "But I have some thoughts in my mind."

Many of Taylor's family members gathered at the small house in Homestead where he spent much of his time growing up. Junor seemed to show her frustration with the attention focused on Taylor's past brushes with the law when asked about statements that having a young daughter had changed him.

"He was not exactly a bad person, so I don't see where he was turning his life around because of a baby," she said.

Taylor died early Tuesday morning, one day after he was shot in his home during a random burglary, Miami-Dade Police Department Director Robert Parker said.

"There is some information that is known by members of the public and we believe that information hasn't reached law enforcement," said Parker.

Funeral services will be held at the Pharmed Arena at Florida International University on Monday, Dec. 3, at 11 a.m. The services are open to the public, but seating is limited.

At a news conference Wednesday, Parker said there are no suspects because there were no witnesses who could give police a description of the person or people responsible for the killing, but he urged anyone with information to call police or Crime Stoppers.

Parker also said that there were no indications that Taylor was targeted or knew his assailant.

"There is nothing thus far in the investigation that indicates that there was an involvement on the victim's part," said Parker.

Local 10's Rad Berky reported that investigators are focusing their attention on the friends, or more likely, friends of friends of Taylor, who may have visited the NFL star's home.

Parker said evidence indicates that one or more intruders barged into Taylor's home. Parker called it "a random event" and said police are looking at the home as a "bona fide" crime scene.

But on Tuesday, Richard Sharpstein, an attorney speaking on behalf of Taylor's family, said the shooting was not random.

"There are too many coincidences," said Sharpstein. "It's clear this house was targeted."

Recreating Events

Sharpstein said Taylor, his girlfriend and Taylor's 18-month-old daughter were in the bedroom of Taylor's home when Taylor heard noises in the living room.

Sharpstein said Taylor went to investigate and was carrying a machete that he keeps in the bedroom. The intruder kicked in the door and then shot twice, hitting Taylor once in the leg, the attorney said. Taylor lost a significant amount of blood because the bullet hit his femoral artery, Sharpstein said.

Miami-Dade police went to Taylor's home at 18050 Old Cutler Road in Palmetto Bay after receiving a call from a woman around 1:30 a.m. Investigators later identified the woman as Taylor's girlfriend, Jackie Garcia. Garcia is the niece of actor Andy Garcia and the mother of Taylor's daughter, also named Jackie.

Monday's break-in was at least the second for Taylor in less than two weeks. Taylor's home was ransacked and items were stolen on Nov. 17, Sharpstein said.

Taylor had closed the storm shutters on his home after the earlier break-in. During that entry, someone made his or her way through a front window, according to a police report. The house was ransacked and there was damage to an air conditioning duct in the bathroom, where someone may have believed there was something hidden, Berky reported. A kitchen knife was left on the bed, according to the police report, but it wasn't until after Taylor was killed that police began to analyze evidence collected from the first break-in, Berky reported.

"We have no reason to think that this was anything but a burglary or a robbery involving an intruder," said Parker.

He also said police are looking for more than one person and hoped an arrest would be made "shortly, in short order."

Meanwhile, Junor said she was thankful of Taylor and Garcia for her "beautiful granddaughter, and I want to enjoy her for the time."

"Whoever took him doesn't understand what they took from us," said Taylor's cousin, Nicole Matthews.




slapshot

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11/30/2007 12:58 PM




FB,

The track of Army to Bell was fairly common. Bell made it a common practice to hire people right out of the military. Your folks made a very wise choice.

A little off topic, but Ma Bell was perhaps the best place to work in the 70s. They were one of the few companies that treated their employees extremely well and cared about quality of service to the customer. My Dad began working for Bell around 1969. Breaking up the "monopoly" was one of the dumbest moves. And Verizon taking over was a big joke. They treat their employees like crap and you are lucky to even have a dial tone as a customer.




GlennGoBlue

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11/30/2007 1:23 PM




I can't wait to see the pics of the 3 winners they picked up in the Taylor case.




Fred_Barnett

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11/30/2007 1:43 PM




The rumor is one of the "winners" was picked up while drunk snoozing on his couch- after having downed a fifth of some cheap, rotgut booze. We cannot confirm or deny the suspect was wearing pleated pants. Story at 6pm...




GlennGoBlue

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11/30/2007 2:13 PM




Hopefully the comedy will be by around 6 as well.




Fred_Barnett

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11/30/2007 2:36 PM




rimshot




Fred_Barnett

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11/30/2007 4:32 PM




Looks like my conjecture about the "copycat" angle may have been closer to the truth than I originally thought-

"The Miami Herald was the first to report that three men were brought in for questioning in Taylor’s murder. The men, all from the Fort Myers area, include two teenagers — one 17, the other 19 — and a 26-year-old, who had targeted Taylor’s home after someone had bragged about the player’s wealth, the newspaper reported on its Web site."

Maybe the break-ins weren't directly related, but different members of a loosely related clique. Maybe it was a robbery gone bad (the 2nd one). but that still doesn't explain why (if the info is correct) that NOTHING was stolen during the first break-in. That's gotta be inaccurate (IMO).




Tattoo

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11/30/2007 4:40 PM




I don't know FB, the whole idea of it being a break in gone wrong doesn't sit with me one bit...

Sorry but I break into a house, to rob it I am going to be quite and attempt to take something, not go kicking doors in and start shooting... by all accounts Taylor heard noises went to lock the door then went to get his coconut opener, right?!? so the guys in the house decide instead of taking off because someone is home they choose to find one of the people in the house, kick in a locked door fire two shots then take off without anything?!? doesn't make a lot of sense, he's shot so there is no threat why not take some stuff... Still think it was a payback hit or like my long shot prediction the girlfriend was involved...




Fred_Barnett

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11/30/2007 4:48 PM




When you explain it like that Tat, you're right. I was surprised when I read that, my theory was just throwing crap up at the wall and seeing if it was plausible. That's why obviously there are either inaccuracies in the available info, or a LOT more interesting things to come out.




f-dallas

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11/30/2007 5:07 PM




I read a report today that said the first attempt was successfully 9they stole some stuff), but I don't have a link and it was the only report I read that said so...I'm thinking it was probably inaccurate.




GlennGoBlue

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11/30/2007 9:25 PM




Yikes, glitch in the matrix, and Whitlock might be publishing a retraction column real fast:


"The suspects were identified as Venjah K. Hunte, 20; Eric Rivera Jr., 17; Jason Scott Mitchell, 17; and Charles Kendrick Lee Wardlow, 18, according to the Associated Press."



Those names sure don't sound like "The Black KKK" to me...




Tattoo

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11/30/2007 9:43 PM




just saw on espn2's ticker that they have 4 people and that they have now been arrested, don't really feel like looking into it more for confirmation so take it for what it worth...




Eagle-in-DC

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12/1/2007 8:34 AM




Tat...it looks like it actually was an amateur botched burglary. DAMN! I was really pulling for your theory.




GlennGoBlue

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12/1/2007 10:59 AM




Um, yeah. Nevermind on my post of last night. Put them down like Dogs, these guys are absolutely sub-human. Especially that one winner.




Tattoo

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12/1/2007 12:02 PM




I've never been so bummed out that one of my far out theories was wrong... not that I really wanted the baby to grow up without both parents but still...

GGB, right on the money these guys would've gotten caught even if they had just tried the break in and then ran away... Braintrust they aren't bragging about the "job" prior to even stepping foot on the property... BRILLIANT!!! these guys will be furture contestants for the yearly Darwin Awards...




Seth in 736

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12/1/2007 12:09 PM




Fantastic mugshots. The 4th one, guy wit the hair and the teeth? Priceless.




GlennGoBlue

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12/1/2007 12:50 PM




The one guy that Seth is referring to, even though he is actually the only one of the 4 that has not been charged yet, should be subject to a complete search for contraband or weapons, and running for warrants, any time he passes a police officer looking like that. And anyone else that looks like that.




f-dallas

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12/1/2007 5:47 PM




Color me completely shocked. Never would have believed it was random given all the circumstantial stuff.

BTW, in a cruel turn of fate, this basically makes Whitlock a member of the black KKK. He assassinated the character of an upstanding young black man to get a few hits on a web site. Shameful.




GlennGoBlue

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12/2/2007 12:34 PM




Cancel the notion that Seth's twin brother was not charged, it was just an administrative delay, as he was the last one picked up.




Fred_Barnett

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12/3/2007 9:26 AM




BTW, in a cruel turn of fate, this basically makes Whitlock a member of the black KKK. He assassinated the character of an upstanding young black man to get a few hits on a web site. Shameful.

Nothing like blaming the victim.

Effing sellout. If I had a rope big enough to wrap around his big fat neck, I'd do the honors myself.




KeithByars

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12/3/2007 9:35 AM




How random is it, though? One of the pictures showed one of the suspects at Taylor's sister's party




f-dallas

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12/3/2007 9:56 AM




I think random in terms of the fact that his history didn't have anything to do with the shooting and he wasn't targeted for murder.




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