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According to what I can find on INTERWEBS, the 271 figure for Harvey is the correct one. He didn't look 291, but the NFL Network has been remarking on his weight of 291 for 2 or 3 days without catching their own mistake.

Their coverage is really, really embarrassing this year.

Wow....this truly marks the culmination of the Bizzaro Level- 1st time ever the breakdown of college / draft elligible talent has ever been covered in depth like this without my name attached- especially the LBs.

No internet connection at home has its disadvantages.

Good stuff, & id like to note/add the following:

F_D wrote:
In terms of surprises, Derrick Harvey weighed in at 291 lbs. (6'5"). I was shocked. This is a guy who was listed at 252 when he played for the Gators..he showed up 40 lbs. heavier. He certainly didn't look 291, either...looked 270 to me. he moved extremely well. He wasn't in the class of Gholsten or Long, but just a shade below and quite a bit bigger on the scale. At that weight, he's gotta be a 4-3 DE, though. If he lasts, he'd be a very interesting pick for the Birds. In terms of size/athleticism, he's not in the mold of Florida defensive ends. He ran a 4.8 if anyone cares.


In one of our "hen" e mails last wk, I spoke highly of Harvey and it seemed as though you weren't all that impressed. I can understand why his apparent weight of 290something could sway you a tad, and I agree that he did not/never will be 290something....

271 lbs is fine for a DE using speed- its not like he's an anemic 250 which was supposedly his playin weight all yr. The kid's wingspan is big (82 inches?)- which should serve him well in playing to his strengths at the next level- blowing by LT's and not lettin them into his body.

I think he IS in the mold of most FLA DE's in that his game isn't predicated on power, moreso finesse/speed and the infamous "high motor" type of playmaking ability. He's long and lanky like one soon to be disposed "Freak". For a speed DE- 31 reps of 225 is kinda impressive. I know I was impressed.

The only thing im readin is that he interviewed poorly. This could a) Help him slide to Philly or b) completely eliminate him if 1 of those poor interviews was with the Fat Man. I know that even with Bunk's apparent issues off field, he 'interviewed well' per Reid and thats' what landed him here. We'll see.

I would be very happy to land him at 19, as I think DE is the team's number 1 need, not WR, not S, not CB. Id put CB as the second highest need barring any moves to be made begining Midnite Friday am...

Considering what they passed off as a commentary team during the season, I'm not surprised. How many years has the NFLN been doing this?

Figure that it'll get better as time rolls along.

Flacco is the bell of the fucking ball. Honestly, he didn't impress me at all in the passing drills. He's a big guy with a big arm, but he was wild and he played against garbage competition in college. What he'll end up being is still a question, but I'm not as in love with him as most teams are.


Flacco didn't impress me the 1st U of D game I saw him in last year but the other games I saw him play he was very impressive.

Granted James Madison, Richmond, Southern Illinois, and the CAA are not powerhouse schools but he still played very well.

The only thing I see wrong with his game is he a little slow of foot and that can get you killed in the NFL.

He has a quick release, a rocket for an arm (very accurate), can throw well on the run, and he has the size. He also has smooth skin and a nice bubble. He'll probably be drafted in the 2nd round.

He has a much better chance to develop than Andy Hall (whom the Eagles drafted).

I think he could be a starting QB in the NFL in 2-3 years if he can get quicker of foot and develop some escapability.

Should clarify- ive seen plenty of Mocks that had him there for the Birds at 19 already, but the lines are always at a premium, and the way the G-men essentially won a SB with extreme pressure I figure that come draft day the DE's in a DE rich draft may go high, even to some teams w/ seemingly more glaring needs.

Thats why I said "Slip to the Birds".

I honestly wouldnt be shocked if they (Eagles) made a move UP in the draft either-but 1 guy I thought they MAY do that for after reading something late last week (The OT Clady) didnt partake of the festivities so perhaps that will sway them to just sit tight and see what falls to them, taking the highest rated DE, CB or S thats there at 19.

Section- nice call.

This kids stock is soaring (Nice move there Wanny- you had em in your back yard and then were a j/a about lettin him transfer to UD) and I wouldnt be shocked if a team at the top of Rd. 2 decides to move back into the 1st to nab him.

Several teams in the top part of the draft order could use QBs- and with so much disparity in opinion regarding the supposed creme of the crop at the position- why not wait in rd.1 and if Flacco's in striking distance towardss the end of rd.1 , go get him, beatin your immediate competition for his services?

In one of our "hen" e mails last wk, I spoke highly of Harvey and it seemed as though you weren't all that impressed. I can understand why his apparent weight of 290something could sway you a tad, and I agree that he did not/never will be 290something....

He definitely impressed me with his athleticism, but he wasn't any more athletic than Lawrence Jackson from USC, for example.

My beef with Harvey was his size. It seems like Florida defensive ends have a nasty habit of sucking at the pro level because they just aren't strong enough and rely too much on speed. With Harvey's additional weight, I definitely find him more interesting.

I did expect him to be faster for a Florida guy, but I was extremely impressed with him as a "291" guy. As a 271 guy, he was still very good but it just wasn't quite as impressive.

If he's there at 19 I think it'd be almost impossible for the Birds to pass on him, given the need the team has as well as their seemingly 'fortuitous' placement in the draft order, in a yr where there's a few highly regarded DE's.

I just can't believe he'll be there at 19, but it would be nice.

No matter what, I think there will be a very good player there at 19 and I wouldn't recommend trading up.

However, if they could package some picks to get an additional 2nd or 1st round pick, this would be a good year to do it (I think).

Especially if they indeed pass on DE in round 1...the draft this yr seems to be DE heavy, so a move up in rd.2 could still net them 'a guy' to 'check out' like they're already going to be doing this yr with last yr's kid outta N.D.

This is pretty funny (from CNNSI):

Darren McFadden created a major buzz at the NFL scouting combine when he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.27 seconds on Sunday. That's also where news got out that McFadden is not only battling a paternity suit, but that he told a team during an interview Saturday night that he has two children on the way. In addition to meeting with the Falcons, he met with the Raiders, who pick fourth in the draft, and several other teams.

So is that four kids total?

Read yesterday he has 2 suits filed against him. Dont know if he already knows 1 of the 2 he's expecting are filing suit, making the total then 3, or if its actually 4 little McFaddens that will be- oh wait, who am I kidding, these kids will NOT bear his name.

Im goin to be safe and assume it's 4 kids total...

I assumed 3 from that little blurb, but that's the first and only thing I've heard about it.

RE: Flacco...

I just think his hype is going off the rails.

This was from Pee King today:

At the RCA Dome, Flacco threw the ball with the arm strength of Jeff George or Dan Fouts.

What the hell...really? They are just falling all over themselves for this guy and I think they are going waaaaaaaaay overboard.

Ah...my comment start again with "what the hell".

What's your list of the Eagles priorities of position in the Draft?

DO they target a certain position, or get best available?

DE

CB

S

RB

WR

OG

The last 3 are perhaps interchangeable.

The best available athlete, among DE, CB or S is what they should do at 19.

If there's already 3 DE's gone, and the 2nd best (In their view) CB is there- or the Safety outta Miami, Phillips, I think they'll take him.

In other words- they've identified their needs, and are at a spot where they can sit and see what trickles down to them, and then take the best player they've got rated at 1 of those 3 spots.

the importance of immediate ST's help in the return game will likely place added importance on a CB on Day 1.

Im goin to be safe and assume it's 4 kids total...

He wants to create his own OL for the father-son weekend pickup games.

Should also state that of the last three needs- and who the hell knows, maybe CB- I think things will happen in F.A. or even maybe a trade, that could see those spots addressed.

My personal feeling is probably the same thought everyone else has.

They have certain positions they MUST address and strength of the draft (after FA) will help determine which ones they address.

The draft needs, as I see them, are:

1A: CB/returner
1A: DE
2: O-line
3. RB
4. Safety
5. DT

I'd probably have safety higher, but there just aren't many to be had right now.

I'm also pretty sure I have RB higher than the Eagles do.

The X-factor is return skills here. I think they'd like to get their hands on a CD/KR/PR player so groom and save roster spots, but they'd probably take a DE ,like Harvey in the first round over a guy who "just" plays corner.

I don't think they'll take a WR in the whole draft unless he's an excellent returner.

BTW, I'll be doing my painstaking combine review on the secondary tonight, but I just checked things our quickly and the DB's are tearing up the track int he 40.

I heard Jenkins ran a 4.28 and McKelvin a 4.32.

Justin King ran a 4.29...huh?

King's only about 175-180, so that I can kinda see.

But Jenkins at 6'0, 200 running a 4.2???
Thought he was a 4.4 guy, which woulda been fine at that size.

I think Jenkins is also a track guy, so it's not super surprising. Any time I see something under 4.4 it gets my attention. Under 4.3 is absurd. I don't think ANYONE expected him to run quite that fast.

Cromatie just ran a 4.28.

Talib ran a 4.48. Cason ran a 4.49.

These are all "unofficial" and the official times will likely be a tiny bit slower.

Cromartie's stock started rising after the Senior bowl. Beings as his Lions and our Birds have the same needs in SOME areas, Glenn called me the day of the game to alert me to this kid who was all over the field- most importantly showin all that he could play the run which was supposed to be a knock on him in some scouts eyes a while back.


I dont know how much his stock rising can translate on draft day- right now I don't see him as a 1st rounder, maybe a 2nd?

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