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Sounds like Roy Williams is still on the trading block, and the Eagles are still content with their merry band of scrubs who can't catch.


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Somebody needs to direct a spam bomb campaign towards the Eagles website- emails 24/7 demanding the Eagles acquire Roy Williams... OR ELSE

Roy Williams? Is this the same Roy Williams who just lost his #1 WR role to second year man Calvin Johnson?

Just what the Eagles need, ... another #2 wide out that can't make it through an entire season without injury.

Oh, ... and statistically, the most this guy has "managed" to make it to the endzone in a single season, (in Detroit's pass happy offense), is eight times! After five campaigns in the NFL he should be thriving, ... yet his output has gradually declined.

I'll pass.

I don't think Williams is the best WR in the league or anything like that, but you have to have to take his numbers with a grain of salt.

Calvin Johnson might be the most physically gifted WR in the league, so if he's lost his "go-to" status to CJ, that's not exactly a big knock on his game in my book.

The injury concern is legit.

The offense they are running in Detroit is a bad one that isn't clicking, mostly due to QB play. They are currently averaging 190 yards per game with only 5 TDs and 7 INTS through 5 games. Two of those 5 TDs have been to running backs, 2 to CJ, and one to Williams.

They even had to bench their startign QB, who was no gem to begin with, in favor of a guy named Dan Orlovsky last week.

I'm not saying he's a must get or anything and I understand the problems with acquiring a player like him in the middle of the season, but I do think it's not all that fair to judge him based on what he's done in Detroit over the past couple season or what he's done to date this season.

don't they want 2 first round picks for Williams? That would mean the Birds would lose out on a 190 lb. DE and a kicker.

Fair enough F-D, ... stats aside, ... there could not be a team where an individual could have a better opportunity to step up and display his leadership skills and rally a team during such a dismal period.

His interests lie within himself. (Contract year, ... give me the ball more.)

I dunno, ... I just see a selfish player as opposed to a team player. Let's face it, ... name the true team leaders in the Eagle's locker-room and consider, ... does FB "really" have the buy in of his team? Just been through this saga with TO.

I was all into trading for Williams before the season, but to be perfectly honest...I don't know how much he helps the Birds right now even putting all the other questions (injury and attitude, primarily) aside.

I wouldn't object if they landed him, but I'm not certain he'd make a huge impact. I don't think the WRs are spectacular, but I also don't think they are the primary problem right now and don't know if Williams could learn the offense and assimilate himself into it in a very productive way over the last 11 games.

I think the main problem is Reid, his play calling, and his play selection. Landing Williams wouldn't change he fact that he's stopped attackign down the field, he doesn't run the ball enough, and he's too predictable.

It would give McNabb a guy who can get open and catch the ball.

It's now too easy for a defense to focus on Westbrook and double DeSean Jackson. There are no other options in the receiving corps, aside from a bag of broken glass.

By all appearances, a second round pick would get Roy Williams or TJ Housh. People are on crack if they think that either couldn't give this team the shot in the arm necessary to go 8-3/9-2. Especially with the bye week.

Anyone who has been at the linc, especially sunday can see how teams are doubling Jackson, 30 yards of the line, EVERY play. With Westy out and the possibility that Curtis (what assurances do they have that he can function at a high level?) will not be 100% this year, it would be a foolish move not to make.

Pity it's not in Andy's Play Book to trade for top tier WRs......

Andy, might want to add a revision there...

I think the Iggs would get a playmaker that would help open the offense in either Roy or T.J. At this current point in time.. Need to fix the offensive woes..

I can't imagine that a young receiver would be able to pick up the offense in one week without limiting his role to certain basic routes, and it is hard for me to imagine that he and McNabb would be able to get on the same page immediately.

So the Williams signing wouldn't help for at least a few weeks.

They won't get Williams - this is the same team that tried to "legitimize" the Tony Hunt signing by putting him in a position he's never played before. Getting Williams would admit that one of their receivers (who would have to be deactivated) couldn't play. And since they're all low/UD picks, having them out there (not read: having them play well) makes the FO look good.

Besides, as pointed out before, the offense is going to look very different come next year, and putting Williams in there takes away touches from DeSean, which takes away even more boasting "rights" for the FO.

They've tried to get receivers every year, I don't think it would be weird for them to try this

I can't imagine that a young receiver would be able to pick up the offense in one week without limiting his role to certain basic routes, and it is hard for me to imagine that he and McNabb would be able to get on the same page immediately.

Stallworth was able to step right in and contribute. WR isn't hard to learn on this team, Morningwheg pointed this out

WR isn't hard to learn on this team, Morningwheg pointed this out

The lower the expectation, the better the result...

Stallworth was able to step right in and contribute. WR isn't hard to learn on this team, Morningwheg pointed this out

It's touch and go, but it doesn't seem like it's all that hard. We were told for years that it takes a long time for WRs to learn this offense, but we've seen Desean Jackson pick it up as a rookie, We've seen Reggie Brown contribute heavily as a rookie, we saw Hank Baskett play and contribute as a rookie, we saw Stallworth learn/contribute with a couple weeks preperation, Kevin Curtis never played the WCO and had an 1,100 yard season in his first year here...

It seems like it was a matter of the shitty player they had.

Roy Williams also played in the WCO for 2 years under Mooch, which would help his transition.

I would give a second round pick for him, but I'm not sure how much he'd help this season.

FD,
I am really surprised by the lack of interest here.

Withe Curtis coming of a damaging injury, LJ invisible, and westbrooke not able to stay on the field, this offense is as predictable as it has ever been. Having Roy Williams changes everything, at a time when this team needs a huge pick me up. With the bye week coming up, and the easiest part of the schedule ahead (SF, ATL, SEA) he would have 5 weeks to work on the offense and be ready to contribute full time for the stretch run....

Some other positives of this pipe dream:

-his value will never be lower, whether DET franchises him or releases at years end, it will take a huge investment to get him in '09. By giving up a second round pick (and securing his services for 3/4 of '08), we lock in the option to franchise him in '09 or sign him long term without having to compete with Dallas for his services. Which brings me to my second point...

-Dallas will sign roy williams next year if he is available. The writings on the wall for a TO meltdown and bringing in another WR mid-season would only expedite the countdown to meltdown. Wisely, Jones is going to wait till the offseason to make a move and avoid completely ruining the team chemisty. If TO didn't go bonkers last week (and anyone watching the Cincy game knows the honeymoon is over) I think Williams would be a Cowboy as we speak.

-Not to mention the fact that the biggest beneficiary would be Desean. The kid has safeties playing 30 yards deep ON EVERY PLAY. Freeing up space for #10 to grow and reducing some of the pressure of being the only WR teams worry about.

-Whether Kolb or Mcnabb is here in '09. A WR corp of Williams, Jackson and Curtis will be a force to try to contain


Where is Seth on this issue....He was all about #11

and by "we", i mean the Philadelphia Eagles, of which I have no association (both formally and informally) with.

I'm not against William,s but I don't know that he's what they need right now.

I also heard Tony G was on the block and supposedly for a 3rd rounder. I think he would have a MASSIVE impact for the Birds. I think the problems with the passing game aren't going to be fixed mid-season by Roy Williams, basically.
I'd still take him, but I would have given a first round pick for him in March and I would maybe give a 3rd now.

3rd rounder for Tony Gonzalez?

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I'd up it to a 2nd and make them take LJ Smith, too.

Tony Gonzalez is like 40 years old!

Some of you people who are lukewarm on Roy Williams either haven't ever seen him play or you've lost your minds.

Yeah a guy like this certainly couldn't help our team...
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RW is not the player you all are making him out to be. Yeah, I know nobody is saying he's the second coming, but his performance indicates he's an average receiver. I don't care about the hype, there's a track record against which we can judge him.

Hoosh is a much, much better player.

And Tony G. may be 40, but he's still a top 5 TE in this league and will be for another year or two. Certainly worth a 3rd.

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