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Looks like Pacman got himself in a little trouble again, though the local police let him off the hook...


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According to this account, he punched one of his own bodyguards, who then declined to press charges (which means Pacman gave him money).


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And another thing...Terrance Newman has a sports hernia and it looks like it's goign to require surgery.

If he goes under the knife, he'll be out a minimum of 6 weeks, though his effectiveness will be limited for the most of the remainder of the season.

If somebody can make this Pacman stuff stick and Newman is going to miss extensive time, that's a window opening for the Birds (not that they'd take advantage of it).

THEY WILL BE ABLE TO WHEN THEY TRADE LITO FOR ANQUAN BOLDIN OR ROY WILLIAMS~!

YEAH EAGLES~

E-A-G-L-E-S~ GO GREEN~!

Second best pass catcher on his own team. He's definitely an excellent #2, though.


ha ha


In all seriousness- you are wrong about Williams vs Tony G. While I love his blocking, he not gonna stretch the field and open things up. And middle of the season has nothing to do with anything. They can package him up, he only has to know a handful of plays and he could play the very next week. Jackson and Williams? Who do you double? Williams probably. That'd be better than the Owens lineup.

If the Eagles ran the ball, I'd be closer to maybe, sorta agreeing with you (but not) about "the old man"- but at this point, I just can't.

Fred

I'm all for the Eagles getting Williams.

The current crop of Eagles WRs stink on ice. They certainly lack any real speed and separation ability as discussed ad nausem. Even though we were told that they were going to be fine “again” this year. The arrogance of this organization is disgraceful.
Jackson is obviously not part of that equation but being a rook Reid will keep him on the sidelines more than he should.

McNabb basically has no one to throw to (AGAIN) and in Reids pass happy offense this is a guaranteed recipe for disaster. For someone who likes to throw the ball as much as Reid does, you would think he would have drafted or brought in some WRs who could actually catch the ball and had some separation speed over the last 10 years. The list of WRs that they have brought in here over the years is shameful. The one year the actually brought in a bona fide WR they went to the Super Bowl. Go figure.

They only problem I have with this on going discussion is that the Eagles will do “nothing” to get Williams or anybody else for that matter. What you see is what you are going to get for the rest of this year. They certainly won't make any trades so this discussion is futile.

I disagree again.

It's not futile. It's about hope. Because if you can't "hope for change", what's left? Swallowing a bullet? Forgetting about football- the National pastime?




BECOMING A COWBOYS FAN?!?!?



NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL WE, THE DELUDED FANS SAY IT IS!!!!

Fred_Barnett
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I disagree again.

It's not futile. It's about hope. Because if you can't "hope for change", what's left? Swallowing a bullet? Forgetting about football- the National pastime?

BECOMING A COWBOYS FAN?!?!?

NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL WE, THE DELUDED FANS SAY IT IS!!!!


Ohhh Fred.

Come on...

The only fans the NFL care about are the fans that buy seat licenses and season tickets and obey the new rules regarding fans code of conduct. They also love the companies (WHO AREN"T BANKRUPT) who buy the all those lovely luxury boxes.

The Eagles only care about profit margins and how many guys they can sign on the cheap. They don't give a shit about the fans. It's a win win situation for them because EAGLES FANS will ALWAYS watch, bitch and buy the BULLSHIT merchandise.

WE ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FKN SUCKERS because we love the game and they know it.

I stopped caring after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl in 2004. My unconditional LOVE for the Eagles died that day. My love for football be it Pee Wee, Midget, High School, NCAA or the NFL will never die. They can’t ever take that away from me so FUCK THEM AND THEIR GREEDY FUCKING BULLSHIT.

WOW!

That was definitely a watershed moment for me too, Section.

Just a kick to the nads followed up by a knee to the jaw when I doubled over and then pissed on for good measure when I crumpled to the floor after 2004's SB.

The overwhelming thought was they blew it. They had 4 years of grace with the Boys struggling to find a HC, the Redskins trotting out a cast of clowns, and the Giants being modestly competitive.

Now, you watch the organizations that will do EVERYTHING they possibly can to make it to the next level. I will grant you that 90% of the moves that Snyder makes are unequivocally retarded, but it isn't for a lack of effort. Jerry Jones is someone else who won't hang onto a losing hand. He folds and waits for the next round to make his comeback. Sinking ship? Lurie believes that if all the passengers bail quickly enough...then you'll be saved...er wait, he doesn't give a shit as long as the PSLs are accounted for......you think he gives a shit about this recession? The Giants were deliberate and measured....The Eagles were obstinate and inflexible on "mixing it up" from the standard formula.

This really has become a joke. I know Dean-o will smile and comment that it is ranting, but the replication of results speaks for itself.

Jules_Jr
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That was definitely a watershed moment for me too, Section.

Just a kick to the nads followed up by a knee to the jaw when I doubled over and then pissed on for good measure when I crumpled to the floor after 2004's SB.

The overwhelming thought was they blew it. They had 4 years of grace with the Boys struggling to find a HC, the Redskins trotting out a cast of clowns, and the Giants being modestly competitive.



Doc,

You can give me a rectal examine anytime. Just be careful you don't hit my prostate gland.

I’m very fragile.

If the Eagles ran the ball, I'd be closer to maybe, sorta agreeing with you (but not) about "the old man"- but at this point, I just can't.

The Eagles would run the ball a little more if they had a TE who could block (they must have the worst average yards per carery int he league right now) mand I don't think a stretch the field WR is their problem.

If this was the off-season and both these players were available on the trading block, it would be a no-brainer. Williams 100 times out of 100. IDon't know if it was here on the level or offline, but Seth and I both talked about Roy Williams as the #1 target last offseason and giving up almost anything to get him. Fitzgerald was certainly very tempting and we went back and forth, but Williams was the guy who had the skill set to play the T.O. role in this offense. He's big, but he's extremely athletic, runs with power and elusiveness, can get deep, can run those underneath route and turn a short catch into a long TD.

I like just about everything about Williams.

I just disagree that he'd help much this year. I don't think their problem is gettign deep...they have one of the 2 or 3 fastest WRs in the league on their team. Their problem is they don't have a TE in the passign game or run blocking game, which is killing their offense. It's especially crushing them in the red zone.

Again, that's not their only problem...

I don't think we really disagree that much here, but we definitely see things differently. I look at Williams as a slight upgrade this year ad a big upgrade down the line (if they can retain him). I look at Tony G as a one year rental who gives you a massive upgrade at a position of dire need.

I'd absolutely take either one, though.

Regarding the Eagles running game...

Correct me if I'm wrong here... but weren't the Eagles one of the best running teams in the league last year? They basically had the same corps of TEs last year that they have this year.

Is it the absence of Andrews that has them under producing? If so, that is a friggin' disgrace when one guy's absence cripples your run game.

I'd take Roy Williams in a heart beat. I agree with f-dallas that I'm not sure he could help them this year with everything else blowing up. But if the opportunity presented itself... I'd hope they would pull the trigger.

Eagles ended up with the 8th ranked rushing attack last year, no doubt due to Westbrook's touches and the emphasis on the run due to McNabb coming back from injury.

I doubt it's ALL Andrews' absence, but that certainly hasn't helped. Plus, remember who's calling the plays now as opposed to last year.

Did any of you guys catch Trent Cole's comments from the other day? He was ripping the fans for booing them during the loss to the Redskins, saying "true Eagles' fans won't boo".

He'd better be happy the Phils are in the NLCS, because he's disappeared from the radar as quickly as if he was going against Chris Samuels.

Yeah...that's a pussy remark, but oh well.

BTW, Officially OUT for Sunday:

- Reggie Brown
- Shawn Andrews
- Brian Westbrook

Curtis will also most likely be out.

What the Hell's wrong with Reggie Brown this time?

Bruised ego?

Now that Banner is not going to extend any players, does this mean they won't sign ANYONE in free agency?

I understand why they're not eager to spend $$$ when they don't know what the economic landscape will be, but if they stand pat this off season, it could be disastrous as actual good teams like Dallas and Washington break the bank and try to win championships.
linc

The Eagles would run the ball a little more if they had a TE who could block

Do you really believe that?

Really?


He's big, but he's extremely athletic, runs with power and elusiveness, can get deep, can run those underneath route and turn a short catch into a long TD.

Don't forget- his hands are MUCH better than T.O.'s...


I like just about everything about Williams.

Agreed.

I just disagree that he'd help much this year. I don't think their problem is gettign deep...


Again, I have to school you. It's not just about "gettign deep"- it's about catching everything thrown your way to the point where defenses have to change their game plan and account for you all over the field. That's when you as a No.1 receiver help the whole receiving corps, by opening things up for Westbrook, Gums, Jackson, the tight ends, and so on. When the offense is on the field more it positively helps the defense. Please check the "T.O. year" stats F-d if you think I exaggerate.

Fred Barnett always says that the big time receiver is the straw that stirs the drink.

they have one of the 2 or 3 fastest WRs in the league on their team. Their problem is they don't have a TE in the passign game or run blocking game, which is killing their offense. It's especially crushing them in the red zone.

What's killing them in the red zone is their play-calling.



I don't think we really disagree that much here, but we definitely see things differently.

That is why I am trying to take you to "the next level"

You are good Grasshopper, but can you snatch the pebble?





I look at Williams as a slight upgrade this year ad a big upgrade down the line (if they can retain him). I look at Tony G as a one year rental who gives you a massive upgrade at a position of dire need.

I don't know about "massive upgrade" because of his age, but of course he's the best pass catcher/blocker maybe in history



I'd absolutely take either one, though.

Of course you would. And so would I.

Do you really believe that?

Really?

Not a lot more, no.

Again, I have to school you. It's not just about "gettign deep"- it's about catching everything thrown your way to the point where defenses have to change their game plan and account for you all over the field. That's when you as a No.1 receiver help the whole receiving corps, by opening things up for Westbrook, Gums, Jackson, the tight ends, and so on. When the offense is on the field more it positively helps the defense. Please check the "T.O. year" stats F-d if you think I exaggerate.

Fred Barnett always says that the big time receiver is the straw that stirs the drink.

You're talking about bringing in a guy in late October here, not March. I don't think he makes that kind of impact quickly, which is my main point.

I don't think a WR normally has that great an impact on a team, but THIS team's offensive philosophy is based on the pass. So, even if your are moronic (or mormon) it should be evident that you need a great WR. Not just good, I mean elite-ass WR. Even when TO was here, WB was still the real catalyst for the offense.

That said, I'd like to see Lurie actually work on getting him, but the way his portfolio is shrinking, he may opt for the Donte Softserve's and James Thrash's at the outlet FA mall.

I don't think he makes that kind of impact quickly


It's not like we're talking about "Rudy" here.

He'll make an impact as soon as he laces up and steps onto the field. NFL teams know who he is. And it's not like he's a rookie either.

Tony Gonazalez is seeking a trade and the Chiefs are open to it.

a third rounder per PFT, for Tony G....

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