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I don't consider 10.3 yards/catch for 700+ yards a #1, but ok. And that assertion means Santonio Holmes got the bulk of his 18.1 average on 3rd down.

Fred, take it easy.

What's your beef here? They ranked him AHEAD of Holmes and I simply pointed out (pretty accurately) that the 32 year old Ward is probably not going to be doubled teamed very often in the future if the young, big play WR opposite him continues to outproduce him.

Nate Clemens agrees with me

Anyway, I'm not all worked up about this, merely pointing it out.

And KB, I'm still looking for Holmes stat breakdown, especially on 3rd down.

He got the same amount of production on each down

Every number 1 gets double-teamed. Those guys all out-produced him. He's not in their class anymore.

Nate Clements thinks a guy who hasn't played football in a year is the best in the business?

Sounds like a credible witness.

And for all this nonsense, I hope that half-breed continues his 3 year downward spiral this season.

F Pittsburgh.

FD- You're just mad 'cause he sank "the Smurf in Carolina blue" to 9th

KB shut up

That's not nice

FB, I wasn't being serious, just sarcastic. Shoulda been in "blue".

Both lists blow. Nate Clements is Kaiser Sosay. Tricked the world into believing he was the best CB that ever lived.

PS, Spuds 4/8 article is the preparatory article to say that the Birds aren't drafting a WR high.

My bad Jules. Maybe you'd better inform KB as well

FD- You're just mad 'cause he sank "the Smurf in Carolina blue" to 9th

That's higher than I'd have him right now.

My current top 10 overall WRs (not just stats) for 2008 are:

1. Moss
2. T.O.
3. Ocho
4. Andre Johnson
5. Braylon Edwards
6. What's up with Fitz?
7. Reggie Wayne
8. Plax
9. Megatron
10. Steve Smith

My bad Jules. Maybe you'd better inform KB as well

Nah, I'm fine. Although I don't know what he was being sarcastic about

Although I don't know what he was being sarcastic about

Rating Santonio Holmes as one of the 20 best WRs in the game.

F-D, your list is fine. I still like Boldin somewhere in there, but I guess I'm partial to big bully WRs with great hands over Smurfs

Uh yeah, doesn't really change anything I said

All-Smurf Team

1. Steve Smith
2. Wes Welker
3. Lee Evans
4. Santonio Holmes
5. Jericho Cotchery
6. Deion Branch
7. Kevin Curtis
8. Santana Moss

Uh yeah, doesn't really change anything I said

Does anything?

Yeah

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