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Figured we would throw all the fired ones here.

Haley gets fired, and now Sparano, fueled by losing to Castillo, has been let go 3 weeks early.

Sparano probably should have been let go, but I saw a headline last week that was something like "Are the Dolphins the best 4-8 team in history?".

When you lose to a team as bad as the Eagles, though, I guess heads have to roll.

Deadspin's Drew Magary keeps a list every week that he routinely updates. From last week:

Fire This Asshole!
Is there anything more exciting than a coach losing his job? All year long, we'll keep track of which coaches will almost certainly get fired at year's end or sooner. And now, your potential 2011 chopping block:

• Jack Del Rio - FIRED!
• Norv Turner*
• Jim Caldwell*
• Tony Sparano
• Mike Shanahan
• Andy Reid
• Leslie Frazier
• Raheem Morris
• Pat Shurmur
• Tom Coughlin
• Steve Spagnuolo
• Jason Garrett
• Todd Haley

(* - Could happen any moment!)

I can't see Garrett getting canned yet. They've held him as the golden boy for a few years now so he's really going to have to lose a few full seasons before shifting.

the entire NFC east is on that list but I think all 4 will be back.

I can see Coughlin getting fired if they fail to make the playoffs again.

Reid is definitely coming back.

No question IMO.

They'll boast their third D-Coordinator in as many yrs but he'll be back.

In Miami, the loss to Philly provided a perfect opportunity to ditch a coach the ownership wanted gone. That's why they had to do it now, before Miami won any more games.

Kind of ironic that Philly's lousy play this year got another coach fired, but not their own.

They'll boast their third D-Coordinator in as many yrs but he'll be back.


Castillo's replacement will be the 4th DC in 4 years, which says a lot about the disorganization of the organization. Since Reid will win a few meaningless games in the final month, I agree with each of you that mentioned Reid will likely return for a 14th season. I still hold out hope, however, because Lurie/Banner watch the same games we watch, and they are intelligent men who are going to have to replace Reid eventually. Why not after a losing season? Are they going to wait until after 2012 when Reid qualifies for another wildcard? Otherwise they have to extend him for another 5 years.

I disagree with the teams that fired their head coaches before the end of the season because I think it is best to evaluate each coach after the full season, then you have to act swiftly within the first week after the season ends. I agree with Lyteinc that every coach deserves a few seasons. I respect Lurie/Banner for not firing Reid during the season, and they certainly must reevaluate in 3 weeks and make a long-term decision. Next year is Reid's contract year, so they have to fire him or give him an extension at that time.

Seems a bit strange that there has been a rash of firings this week, but it does make sense for those who may be looking at the guys who are not currently working. I guess it's a way to get a jump on getting the bigger name guys (Cowher, Gruden)in for an interview or at least preliminary talks before the rush.

Saying that, I'm also coming to grips with the fact that Red's gonna be back in '12. It'll be interesting to hear the postseason commentary from Lurie/Banner and see if there's a whiff of "prove it now" from anything they say. While I think that regime change is what they ultimately need, I guess I'll have to cling to the hope that Howie gets gently escorted to a position in the organization that gets his hands clear of personnel. Love to get a new GM and start the rebuild from there.

PT wrote:
"Castillo's replacement will be the 4th DC in 4 years,..."

Incorrect.

SM was the D Coordinator immediately following JJ's death.
2009 season & 2010.
Fired.
2011- Juan Castillo.

The replacement- ?
That will be 2012.

That means the replacement will be the THIRD DC in as many years, once he's hired (2010 - 2012).

I was talking about calendar years (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012). And my point is 4 DCs in 4 years is an indication of disorganization. According to the philadelphiaeagles.com, on 7/24/2009 Sean McDermott was named Defensive Coordinator.

1. Jim Johnson, 1999-2009
2. Sean McDermott, 7/24/2009-1/15/2011
3. Juan Castillo, 2/2/2011-1/2/2012
4. Unnamed, 2012

More importantly, why would anyone have confidence in the next DC if Reid is still around to hire him?

Sheil Kapadia from Philly.com is citing a SD Tribune report that's placing Spags as the Eagles new DC.

It's saying that Norv Turner and (possibly) GM AJ Smith will be let go by the Chargers at the end of the year. Smith will be hired by the Rams to be their new DC, and as a result, Spags will be packing his bags (and be replaced by Jon Gruden, whom ESPN is preparing to let go).

From there, Spags will join the Eagles as the new DC, if things play out right and he wants to go there (and if JC gets shot to the moon).

Personally, I don't see it. Spags would be an upgrade to this defense, but that would mean gutting the defensive staff and letting him bring in his own guys, which would probably mean departing from the Wide 9 philosophy. There's also the notion that JC has improved during this stretch run (and that the Eagles' run D has improved as time went on) and that Reid could go with him for another year (part ego, part perceived improvement).

In the end, bringing Spags in may be an improvement, but is it enough?

If Spags is brought in to Philly and is able to turn the defense into a force, bring in legit pro level Linebackers and turn the team around, it could be the sign to the door for Reid and allow Spags to take over as HC down the road.

My main concern is that Spags' team has spent a number of draft picks on defensive players over the years and his defense hasn't really performed very well. I'm not entirely convinced he's an improvement over an 'improving' JC.

Had the Eagles hired an authentic DC instead of promoting Castillo, I think their record would be slightly better, just enough to give them the division. However, this is not a legitimate contender, so the results would be quick playoff exit like the previous 2 appearances. Another DC isn't going to be the difference between the Super Bowl. The 7-8 record is a result of the entire team, not just the defense. After all, the defense isn't leading the NFL in giveaways.

Furthermore, the Eagles are kidding themselves if they think wins against Mia, NYJ and Dall demonstrated an improved anything. The Dec winning streak has more to do with weak opponents than Eagles improvement.

I still see Castillo sticking around. Reid's player philosophy (I will always choose one of my own over a more talented outsider to show you how smart I am) will officially expand to his coaching staff this offseason.

wait, he routinely replaces his own players with new players all the time. LB has been a black hole of new picks and sucky FA signings. He just signed and trade for two CB's. He brought in 3 FA WR's and gave them big contracts. He replaced his drafted QB with Vick. He brought in Kearse, Jenkins, and others to help on the DL. He let Dawkins go and brought in shitty FA safeties. He went after the best T in football to help on the line. Then he brought in Washburn and Mudd to help out coaching

Whoever wins on Sunday (girls, cunts) the loser coach will more than likely be toast.

If the cunts lose I'm thinking they hire Cowher.

If the girls lose they will keep the Ivy leaguer Garrett.

Either way the Eagles won't do jack squat. Reid will be around until the ice caps melt.

The foreskins could fire Shanahan but I'm thinking more like they keep him cause they can draft a QB in the first round.

So you will see movement possible for at 3 of the 4 teams in the NFC Least but we all know it won't be the fkn Eagles.

STATUS QUO on the road to fkn no where.

At Reid's regular Monday PC, one of the media types asked Reid if Lurie had talked with him about his job status and Reid was audibly caught off guard and provided a stuttering answer about worrying about the Redskins. I agree that status quo is the most likely scenario however I still believe that Reid could be relieved of duty on Monday.

Lurie and Banner have been hiding from the press, with good reason, and I presume that they have tabled their decision until after the season ends. I don't think they have decided anything, yet, and Reid's future is likely at the top of their agenda. They will either relieve Reid with a cash settlement as part of a "mutual decision," or they will reinforce the myth of "Andy is a terrific coach" with a list of excuses. If they choose the most likely path, then there will be no Lombardi trophy next year and they might get stuck having to give Reid another contract extension after the Eagles win the NFCE and lose in the first round in 2012. My biggest concern is that I won't live long enough to see "ice caps melt."

PT are you going to dodge KB's comments refuting your claim that Reid tends to keep his draft picks over free agents or are you going to "just kidding" it away?

PT are you going to dodge KB's comments refuting your claim that Reid tends to keep his draft picks over free agents or are you going to "just kidding" it away?


I agree with KB's list and I never said that Reid keeps his picks over UFAs. DeSean is a great example. They are willing to pay Steve Smith $2M but not willing to pay DeSean, the guy they drafted? We have witnessed them do this to other players, too.

The only reason I mentioned drafted players in the initial post was because I noticed that their good draft picks are mostly at the skill positions and their bad picks are scattered throughout the rest of the roster. Look at CB for example. Samuel, Asomugha, DRC, Hanson were not drafted, and they haven't drafted a good DB since Sheppard/Brown/Lewis (10 years ago). They got lucky with Trent Cole, but DE has been a disaster for the Eagles and they have drafted poorly in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd rounds at the DE position. You can add Graham to the long list that should have included Abiamiri years ago

Ugh, my bad that was IHSY not PT, mea culpa. I blame the wild turkey.

Now that the 2011 season has officially ended, it is time for Lurie and Banner to evaluate. 13 seasons, only 6x NFCE (less than 50%), most wins in team history, also most losses, solely responsible for the revolving door at DC, responsible for the "Kolb non-era" (Phil Sheridan, philly.com), responsible for the past 13 drafts (quantifiable results), architect of a perversion of the WCO that only once looked coordinated (2004), master of game mismanagement, slow start every season except 2004, and most importantly Lurie/Banner need to look around the NFC so that they realize they aren't the "gold standard" any longer; that window closed in Feb 2005.

Yeah, he was right to an extent. But how many times has Reid refused to make a change or address an issue when it was painfully obvious that one was necessary?

If he actually attempts to address the LB and Safety issue this offseason I will change my view.

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