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12/26/2011 11:02 AM
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During the past several offseasons the Eagles have turned over more than a third of their roster each year, so they will do the same, this offseason. The Eagles will instantly reduce their payroll by $13.5M on March 1, when they lose their UFAs. Based on releasing some overpaid backups, the Eagles can easily reduce their payroll by another $20M. Therefore, the Eagles have at least $33M they can spend in 2012.
SKILL POSITIONS
Most of the key skill position players were draft picks (McCoy, Jackson, Maclin, Celek, Avant), and everybody drafted except Jackson is under contract for 2012. Young, Brown and Smith were 1 year mercenaries and will not be back next season. Obviously the Eagles will add 2-3 WRs, backup RB, backup QB, backup TE in the offseason. I think Cooper, Harbor and Lewis will be on the bubble at Lehigh. Schmitt will be a UFA and the Eagles will probably draft another FB with one of their 6th round picks.
OFFENSIVE LINE
At OT, Peters and Herremans are under contract and Justice is overpaid for a backup so he might have to restructure his contract or get released in training camp; Dunlap will be a UFA but probably will be offered a 1 year deal by the Eagles and nobody else will offer him anything. Watkins and Kelce are developing starters but Mathis was a 1 year mercenary, so the Eagles will need to get a starting OG. Jackson is overpaid for a backup so the Eagles will draft or acquire a backup center.
DEFENSIVE LINE
At DE, everybody is under contract except Parker, at 33 the oldest player, so he might get a 1 year deal because he won't have any other choices. Tapp has a high salary so he might be replaced. At DT, Patterson and Jenkins are under contract. The Eagles will add both a DE and DT in the offseason, probably with draft picks.
DEFENSIVE BACKS
At CB, I think Samuel will be available for trade, but everybody else will be back. At S, everybody is under contract. I think the Eagles will add both a CB and S, probably with draft picks.
LINEBACKERS
All the LBs are under contract, at minimum wage, and replacing any of them won't hurt the cap. The Eagles will certainly draft a LB and might add a UFA, too.
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12/26/2011 6:03 PM
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I see a bigger issue at play here, before we even get into who goes/stays:
"You look at all the teams that win Super Bowls the past couple years - those teams have been together a long time," said quarterback Mike Vick. "That's how leaders are born and guys learn to step up and accept the challenge."
"I'm not sure we're a team that people necessarily wanted to see get into the playoffs," Reid said
Whether it's blowing smoke up our asses or not, the fact remains that this team thinks it's better than the product it presented, which is part of the reason why they're going to finish .500 at best.
Even besides that, don't appreciate Reid coming out and acting as if somehow they're this dangerous team no one wants to play, when they should've been like this come Week One. Their failure falls straight in the laps of the coaching staff.
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12/26/2011 7:06 PM
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Even besides that, don't appreciate Reid coming out and acting as if somehow they're this dangerous team no one wants to play, when they should've been like this come Week One. Their failure falls straight in the laps of the coaching staff.
Over rated and done.
12/26/1960.
Happy Anniversary!
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PacificTime
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12/26/2011 11:39 PM
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Even besides that, don't appreciate Reid coming out and acting as if somehow they're this dangerous team no one wants to play, when they should've been like this come Week One. Their failure falls straight in the laps of the coaching staff.
Reid is delusional in his self evaluation. Let's pretend the 11-5 wildcard team is watching film of the 7-8 Eagles, including 5 come-from-ahead 4th Q losses, which part of the film will frighten the opposing coach and coordinators? Will they be losing sleep worrying about Vince Young off the bench? Or Ronnie Brown at the goal line? Will NFC defensive coordinators not notice all the turnovers? Does he think NFC offensive coordinators are grateful not to have to face the "wide gap" defense in the playoffs?
Hopefully Lurie/Banner aren't delusional as well since this was the year they went "all in" and declared "anything less than the Super Bowl is a failure." Well guess what? Anything less has occurred. There needs to be accountability and they don't need Sherlock Holmes to identify the responsible party.
A new head coach would have a highly talented core group of players to start with, 11 draft picks, plenty of cap room for veteran acquisitions, not to mention an easy division to be able to compete immediately. Talk about setting someone up for success.
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12/27/2011 12:44 AM
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"I'm not sure we're a team that people necessarily wanted to see get into the playoffs," Reid said
I can't get over his hubris. Look at the QBs in the NFC playoffs, and tell me which one is scared of the Eagles? Reid should take a look at the teams he beat and put them behind the Eagles, and look at the teams he lost to, and place them ahead of the Eagles.
The Eagles were 1-5 against NFC teams and that can't be swept under the carpet. When you look at the conference standings it's difficult to declare this a successful season.
The Eagles are clearly a better team than Wash, StL, TB and MN, but they are clearly worse than GB, SF, NO, Det, Atl, Sea, Chi and AZ. The standings and actual game results should matter when you self evaluate.
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2/2/2012 2:55 AM
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This is the unofficial list of UFAs whose Eagles contracts expire around 2/29/2012:
Vince Young
Ronnie Brown
Owen Schmitt
Johnnie Lee Higgins
DeSean Jackson
Steve E. Smith
King Dunlap
Ryan Harris
Evan Mathis
A.Q. Shipley
Victor Abiamiri
Antonio Dixon
Trevor Laws
Juqua Parker
Akeem Jordan
Trevard Lindley
Jamar Wall
Marlin Jackson
I think the Eagles might try to sign Evan Mathis and Antonio Dixon, and they might negotiate an extension with DeSean Jackson. I can't believe that the Eagles will tender an offer to anyone else on this list.
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2/2/2012 9:02 AM
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I think Dixon is a RFA, but I agree with the overall assessment...I don't think anyone other than Desean, Mathis, and Dixon gets a phone call.
They may try to keep Trevor Laws, but I wouldn't pay much or anything to keep him. He's smallish and not very productive, but they seem to like him for unknown reasons.
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2/2/2012 12:38 PM
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They may keep Juqua Parker and King Dunlap. I don't think Desean comes back. If they ran a power game at all, I think Schmidt still has value. Release the rest.
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2/2/2012 10:21 PM
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They may try to keep Trevor Laws, but I wouldn't pay much or anything to keep him. He's smallish and not very productive, but they seem to like him for unknown reasons.
They may keep Juqua Parker and King Dunlap. I don't think Desean comes back. If they ran a power game at all, I think Schmidt still has value. Release the rest.
Funny that you mention Laws, Parker and Dunlap. I don't think any of them has any value on the UFA market. The Eagles might offer them one-year minimum deals prior to training camp but realistically there will be around 11 rookies and they need around 11 roster spots plus any UFAs they sign. You know the Eagles will sign a few UFAs, obviously backup QB, but some other players, too.
I agree with your assessment of Laws, and I'd like to add that his body of work, won't impress any team (maybe Cleveland invites him to camp since Heckert drafted him in the 2nd round). Parker had 8 tackles and 1.5 sacks in 12 games; at age 34 for training camp, why would anybody invite him to their camp? Dunlap managed to get significant playing time the past three seasons and his body of work won't impress anybody, either.
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2/4/2012 3:33 PM
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Didn't Dunlap play surprisingly well this year? I'm not saying they need to have him back, but I thought he did a lot better than anyone expected of him in spot duty.
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2/4/2012 11:32 PM
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Didn't Dunlap play surprisingly well this year? I'm not saying they need to have him back, but I thought he did a lot better than anyone expected of him in spot duty.
I'm no expert, but I witnessed Dunlap whiff as DEs ran around him. Considering he was a backup, and a 7th round pick, I think the Eagles got the most from him. He played in plenty of games the past 3 seasons and I agree with your point, "he did a lot better than anyone expected of him in spot duty."
We can't criticize Reid about drafting Dunlap, arguably Reid's best 7th round pick. Most 7th round picks get cut in their first training camp. It's a remarkable accomplishment of King Dunlap for making the team for his entire contract term. Funny how he started every season as a deep reserve and ended the seasons as a temporary starter.
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Far be it for me, and I mean that sincerely, to say I was shocked at what I thought was going to be a dominant season for them.
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I anticipated a "dominant season," too. 2011 was the season of enlightenment. Andy Reid was a terrific head coach from 2001 through 2004, however he has been pedestrian from 2005 through 2011.
Watching the NYG at their 3rd SB during Reid's tenure should make it clear that the Eagles will never again be an elite NFC team during Lurie's tenure because he can't figure out the problem although it is obvious to the rest of the city.
In August when the Eagles signed Steve Smith in the hospital, they sent out a press release that the NYG front office was upset that they would have to go with better, younger, healthier WRs. I think the NYG front office was laughing at Lurie and Reid because they knew Smith was done. Then again, when you are assembling a "dream team" you need stiffs like Smith, Ronnie Brown and Vince Young.
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PacificTime
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2/22/2012 12:19 AM
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There are approximately 18 UFAs, maybe some are RFAs, and at least 15 won't "get a phone call," as f-dallas wrote. 18 of 53 is one-third of the roster. I'm sure they'll release a few players, too, because they always do. Subtract a few players for pre-draft or draft-weekend trades.
They'll draft at least 10 rookies, maybe sign a few marquis UFAs, and they'll need at least 8 free agents total, so you have to presume there will be at least one mercenary free agent on each corps, for Lehigh.
The 2012 Eagles will look much different than the 2011 Eagles. Over the past few seasons the Eagles have been regularly turning over one-third of their roster, each season. After 8-8, you have to wonder if they'll turn over more than one-third of the roster?
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I read that the UFA signing period begins March 13. In previous years this was an exciting deadline but this year lacks the enthusiasm. In previous seasons it was about the missing pieces. Unfortunately the whole team needs rebuilding because it was built, weakly around late round draft picks. In my opinion there are a handful of talented players to build around, and the Eagles aren't just a few pieces from a SB. Does anybody believe they are favorites to win their division?
I don't mean to be overly pessimistic, and I know that I am beating a dead horse regarding the Reid/Roseman regime. However, wouldn't the UFA deadline be much more exciting under a new regime?
We already know the offseason script, and they will lay low, at the beginning, then make their moves. More high risk players recovering from surgeries. By the time they are finished making their moves, there will be a 1-year mercenary at each corps. Maybe one of them will blossom but they'll get some stiffs like Young and Brown. They always do - difficult to respect their pro scouting department, either.
Can anybody not named Dave Spadaro get excited about the UFA deadline approaching on March 13?
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3/7/2012 7:52 AM
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"Can anybody not named Dave Spadaro get excited about the UFA deadline approaching on March 13?"
I am sure some of the jock sniffing tools on this board will be!
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3/14/2012 9:52 PM
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After reading their respective exit interviews on Philly.com, both Winston Justice and Jamaal Jackson praised former OL coach Juan Castillo and apparently both players weren't Mudd's favorites.
Obviously both players had starter contracts but as backups the Eagles didn't want to keep them. Kelce earned the starting C job and the Eagles can draft a backup in the late rounds. Justice will be best remembered for his debut against NYG and 6 sacks for Osi, but I think Justice developed onto a pretty good player before his injury and we never saw him play after the injury.
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3/15/2012 7:34 AM
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After reading their respective exit interviews on Philly.com, both Winston Justice and Jamaal Jackson praised former OL coach Juan Castillo and apparently both players weren't Mudd's favorites.
You really have a tremendous grasp on the obvious.
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PacificTime
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3/15/2012 9:53 PM
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While much has been written regarding Juan Castillo's deficiencies as defensive coordinator, very little comparison has been made between him and Mudd as OL coaches. These 2 players have helped distinguish the two, and if the OL continues to improve in 2012, it makes a statement that maybe Castillo wasn't the greatest OL coach, either.
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PacificTime
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3/17/2012 1:16 PM
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If the Eagles wanted to retain Mathis, they would have signed him prior to 3/13. The Eagles have let Mathis and Dunlap leave as UFAs, released Jackson, traded Justice. Almost half the OL is transforming in 2012.
Since 3 of the 5 remaining OL are 2nd year players, Mudd is rebuilding the whole OL in just 2 seasons.
The Eagles usually keep 9-10 OL on their roster, therefore they need to add 4 or 5 OL plus a some training camp bodies. I don't think the Eagles will draft that many OL, so they have to add a few veterans to the OL corps.
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3/19/2012 7:38 PM
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If the Eagles wanted to retain Mathis, they would have signed him prior to 3/13.
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3/20/2012 8:45 AM
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NTFF!!!
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3/21/2012 2:55 PM
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DREAM TEAM 2.0:
"I'm on the 'Dream Team,' this year we're guaranteeing a championship and I would love to be on the Madden cover," McCoy said.
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