LyteInc

2004 Draft- Running Backs/Fullbacks


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4/5/2004 4:28 PM




This is a summation of a variety of sites I've found on 8 Running backs and 4 Full backs, one of each being my sleeper, and they are in order in which is an estimation from a variety of sources on when they will go in the draft. I've cut them short as to make it easier to read, but it still came out to 5 pages on word. You'll have ot deal with that.

Kevin Jones
NFL Position: Running Back
College: Virginia Tech
Class: Junior
Ht: 6-0
Wt: 211
Major: Business

Summation:
The Good: This guy is fast. And I don’t mean elusive speed, or speed when he gets in the open. This is a guy that ran around a 10 second 100 meter dash in HS and has been clocked at 4.26 in the 40. He scored almost a TD a game while only having one full season where he was the lone back (shared 2 years with Lee Suggs). Experience or curls flats and drag patterns as a receiver (could be a negative but oh well). Steadfast blocker with the frame to hold off blitzes. Runs through holes with ease. Great work ethic.

The Bad: He’s a fumbler. He improved a lot but had 8 fumbles in 2002 sharing time to 2 in 2003 as the primary guy. That could mean that this guy needs to be a solo performer to hold onto the ball. Doesn’t “drive though” tacklers, preferring to elude them. VT preferred to have him run than catch out of the backfield, so he’s limited in that side. Not considered a lead blocker at all, and needs to learn to pick up the blitz better.

The Ugly: 4.38 in the 40-yard dash … 360-pound bench press … 560-pound squat … 41½-inch vertical jump (school record for running backs) … 6.7 in the 60-meters … 10.2 100-meters and 21.2 200-meters … Iron Hokie Award (top performer in the weight room) winner.

Steven Jackson
NFL Position: Running Back
College: Oregon St.
Class: Junior
Ht: 6-2
Wt: 224
Major: Housing Studies

Summation:
The Good: Power runner, thrives when getting the majority of carries. 39 td’s in 36 games with 3,625 yards. 19 contests over 100 yards. Explosive burst off the snap and has second level acceleration. Can be elusive and hits holes very hard. Considered to be a very effective receiver, though limited to swings and screens. Takes hits well when going for the ball as a receiver. Strong stiff arm.

The Bad: Needs room to gain acceleration (penetrating Defenses can get him out of rhythm). Does not see the blitz well. Goes down too easily when trying to push the pile (not Duce).

The Ugly: 4.3 in the 40-yard dash (indoors) … 4.45 in the 40-yard dash (outdoors) … 10.6 100-meters … 355-pound bench press … 520-pound back squat … 314-pound power clean … 298-pound push press … 38-inch vertical jump.

Greg Jones
NFL Position: Running Back
College: Florida St.
Class: Senior
Ht: 6-1
Wt: 248
Major: Business Administration

Summation:
The Good: Bruising North-South runner, runs over opponents with ease. Was able to bounce back from injury well (an injury which cost him going into last years draft). Adequate speed off the snap, generating power and executing with good timing. Sees the field well for a big back. Strength to push through holes. Uses vision to utilize block well downfield. Solid blocker, picks up blitz well.

The Bad: Not sure if he’s still recovering from the surgery. Cuts are not as crisp as they were prior to injury. Not good at conditioning and has problems controlling his weight. Not a leader. Doesn’t like running outside.

The Ugly: Timed at 4.55 in the 40-yard dash … 400-pound bench press … 545-pound squat … 360-pound power clean … 37½-inch vertical jump … 9-foot-10 broad jump … 32-inch arm length … 9 ¾-inch hands … Right-handed.

Chris Perry
NFL Position: Running Back
College: Michigan
Class: Senior
Ht: 6-1
Wt: 228
Major: Enrolled in the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts.

Summation:
The Good: Second in school history for rushing touchdowns. Rushed for over 200 yards twice in 2003. Works out as instructed in the weigh room. Shows burst and explosion at the snap. Anticipates rush seem well. Can run outside, elusive when working in space. Shows good ball security. Good pass catching ability.

The Bad: Not considered to be a power back despite size. Doesn’t have adequate leg drive to move piles. Must build up speed to get to second gear. Needs to develop desire to block on protection plays.

The Ugly: 4.55 in the 40-yard dash … Bench presses 225 pounds 19 times … 31 3/8-inch arm length … 10¼-inch hands.

Julius Jones
NFL Position: Running Back
College: Notre Dame
Class: Senior
Ht: 5-10
Wt: 210
Major: Sociology

Summation:
The Good: Is able to capable of returning kicks. Quick moves out of his stance. Shows vision and ability to slide along the line to the hole. Burst allows him leverage to get through holes. Body control to turn up field. Effective on short passes. Willing blocker. Patient and uses blocks well.

The Bad: Does not take well to hard coaching. Dropped out of school for academic reasons, but was able to rejoin the team in 2003. Not enough power to take defenders one on one. Lingering injuries can be a problem. Has to protect the ball better at the next level. Taken down easily if hit at the feet. Not sudden off of cuts.

The Ugly: 4.47 in the 40-yard dash … 345-pound bench press … Bench presses 225 pounds 16 times … 37-inch vertical jump … 4.16 20-yard shuttle … 31 1/8-inch arm length … 9¼-inch hands … Right-handed … Wears contacts.

Tatum Bell
NFL Position: Running Back
College: Oklahoma St.
Class: Senior
Ht: 5-11
Wt: 205
Major: General Studies

Summation:
The Good: The second fastest back in the draft. Potential to add more bulk. Quick first step though holes. Can break tackles while running inside. Improving his ability to get to second gear past the line. Adequate receiver. No hesitation in blocking, good vision picking up blitz. Can make tacklers miss.

The Bad: Exposes his body too much when he runs, especially through holes, which limits his ability to break tackles. Lacks juking skills to elude defenders. Carries the ball low, exposing it.. Absorbs the pass instead of extending for it. Needs to work on form when pass blocking.

The Ugly: 4.34 in the 40-yard dash … 1.54 10-yard dash … 335-pound bench press … Bench presses 225 pounds 24 times … 445-pound squat … 38½-inch vertical jump … 31 7/8-inch arm length … 8 3/8-inch hands … Right-handed.

Maurice Clarett
NFL Position: Running Back
College: Ohio St.
Class: Sophomore
Ht: 5-11
Wt: 231
Major: General Studies

Summation:
The Good: Great vision for a back. Very muscled frame. Shows an explosive start from the snap and through holes. Great change of direction and speed ability. Receiving experience in screens and flats. Uses cut blocks effectively in pass protection.

The Bad: Remember the Combine? He weighed in at 237 lbs, 6 more than his playing weight, but also out of shape and not ready to show his ability. Has a history of minor injuries. Off the field problems with coaches.

The Ugly: 4.45 in the 40-yard dash … 365-pound bench press … 35-inch vertical jump.

Sleeper
Michael Turner

NFL Position: Running Back
College: Northern Illinois
Class: Senior
Ht: 5-10
Wt: 223
Major: Liberal Arts and Science

Summation:
The Good: 4,941 yards rushing career. Only 2 fumbles in his last 508 attempts. Second in rushing in each of the last 2 seasons. Good quickness and adequate vision and instincts. Can break tackles at the line and in the open field. Builds up speed well. Patience waiting for blocks, good cut back ability.

The Bad: Used to carrying out of the I formation on pitchouts. Needs to work at reading block in front of him. Needs to work on squaring up outside. Poor route runner, poor pattern runner. Catches with his body. Has a history of hamstring problems. Needs to work on blocking ability.

The Ugly: 4.42 in the 40-yard dash … 400-pound bench press … 385-pound squat … 295-pound power clean … Bench presses 225 pounds 20 times … 31½-inch vertical jump … 13 chin ups … 7.4 percent body fat … 29 3/8-inch arm length … 9 5/8-inch hands … Left-handed.

Thomas Tapeh
NFL Position: Fullback
College: Minnesota
Class: Senior
Ht: 6-1
Wt: 245
Major: Family Social Science

Summation:
The Good: Very strong. Improves the backs behind him. Scored 24 touchdowns in 43 games as a fullback. Good quickness from the snap. Quick decision maker when running with the ball. Hits lanes with power, using strength to move piles. Adjust body well for off target passes, can compete for ball in traffic. Takes pride in offseason conditioning and has never missed a workout.

The Bad: Lacks flexibility and is stiff when trying to change direction. Lacks wiggle to shake off defenders. Lacks explosion when blocking up the middle because he maintains too high in his pads.

The Ugly: 4.81 in the 40-yard dash … 425-pound bench press … Bench presses 225 pounds 23 times … 605-pound squat … 358-pound hang clean … 31½-inch vertical jump … 4.62 20-yard shuttle … 31½-inch arm length … 9 1/8-inch hands … Right-handed.

Mark Pierce
NFL Position: Fullback
College: Arkansas
Class: Junior
Ht: 5-11
Wt: 247
Major: Vocational education

Summation:
The Good: 11 touchdowns in 36 games. Above average quickness. Was considered the best Fullback in college until he struggled with injuries and decided to enter the draft rather than take another year in college. Strong leg drive. Keeps position when taking defenders in the backfield. quick at picking up the blitz, vision to neutralize linebackers at the second level. Has power to drag defenders. Has played as a motion TE. Stays low going through holes to open them up and absorb hits. Follows blocking well with the ball.

The Bad: Needs hard coaching to be properly motivated. Character problems. Can elude players but chooses to run over them. Wastes good hands by not going back to the quarterback. May appear not interested when not involved in the play.

The Ugly: 4.64 in the 40-yard dash … 430-pound bench press … 300-pound power clean.

Travis Wilson
NFL Position: Fullback
College: Kansas State
Class: Senior
Ht: 6-3
Wt: 243
Major: Social Science

Summation:
The Good: Had playing time also at linebacker as a freshman at Michigan State. Exceptional size and can add more bulk without a loss of quickness. Very fast off the snap, hits holes squared with good leg drive. Solid protecting the ball. Effective short area receiver, good arm extension and agility to catch passes. Absorbs punishment well. Displays an explosive second gear. Solid contact on blocking and maintains his feet.

The Bad: Runs high with the ball. Used only as a safety valve in pass plays. Can overextend body in open space, better in short area. Lacks elusiveness and fluid change of direction.

The Ugly: 4.72 in the 40-yard dash … 32½-inch vertical jump … 457-pound bench press … 812-pound squat … 332-pound hang clean … 9-percent body fat … 30¼-inch arm length … 9 5/8-inch hands … Right-handed.

Sleeper
Luke Lawton

NFL Position: Fullback
College: McNeese State
Class: Senior
Ht: 5-11
Wt: 248
Major: Marketing

Summation:
The Good: Very strong. 22 touchdowns in 246 carries, 70 catches for 9 scores. Very good work ethic. Has quickness to play as a halfback, enjoys the aggressiveness of blocking, and is effective as a short yard receiver. Strong leg drive, stays low in pads to get underneath defenders when lead blocking. Keeps shoulders square when running between the tackles. Soft hands and good extension going for the ball. Quick cuts as a receiver. Has no problem selling his body in traffic.

The Bad: Short attention span, needs to be driven by coach. Stiff in the hips to be effective at blocking on the move (better lead blocker). Not elusive in the open, preferring to run over opponents. Struggles to sustain blocks at the second level. May loose balance when running deep routes.

The Ugly: 4.7 in the 40-yard dash … 425-pound bench press … 600-pound squat … 300-pound power clean … 34-inch vertical jump … 29 7/8-inch arm length … 8½-inch hands … Right-handed.




Airborne Eagle

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4/5/2004 4:50 PM




Love those majors.

How the hell does a senior major in General Studies (Bell)? Some of the other majors are just hilarious.




DirtyGreenBird7

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4/5/2004 5:02 PM




Nice work, Lyte.




LyteInc

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4/5/2004 5:12 PM




Here are some of their wonderlick results...

Steven Jackson, Oregon State - 28
Kevin Jones, Virginia Tech - 15
Chris Perry, Michigan - 20
Greg Jones, Florida State - 25
Tatum Bell, Oklahoma State - 18
Julius Jones, Notre Dame - 16
Michael Turner, Northern Illinois - 35
Maurice Clarett, Ohio State - 20




f-dallas

RE: 2004 Draft- Running Backs/Fullbacks


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4/5/2004 9:32 PM




Christ...nobody wants to be keepin' up with the Joneses, I see.




Seth in 736

RE: 2004 Draft- Running Backs/Fullbacks


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4/6/2004 12:06 AM




Wunderlic aside, I LOVE jones.

Think he could help a club.

Not a stud prospect, just sayin.

Oh, and Perry i am not a huge fan, certainly not like GGB and likely Hooky or ENY.

Sorry, recepts aside just not that impressed.

A train with better hands....IMO.




f-dallas

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4/6/2004 12:38 AM




"Wunderlic aside, I LOVE jones."

Which Jones are you talking about? I would assume the Jones from ND (based on your description), but IF (highly unlikely, though much more likely after his terrible workout) VT Jones would fall to 28, that would be an interesting selection.

I love Westbrook and like Buck's potential, but I just don't see those 2 in the long term future together.

I'm thinking more along the lines of Westy and "X", just because of Buck's bad timing with health and his contract year....will make him a tough re-sign.




Seth in 736

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4/6/2004 12:56 AM




Yo wiffed boff times....i like FSU's Jones, the bruiser, goal line , 3rd and short Jones. AND NOT AT 28!! MY GOD! Just sayin',,,,,love me sum Jones!




LyteInc

RE: 2004 Draft- Running Backs/Fullbacks


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4/6/2004 3:29 AM




Out of all these guys, I think Lawton woujld be a good fit. Depth at FB, and a guy who can catch the ball out of the backfield and moves well with the ball, plus he's a solid blocker. He fits that short yardage need well.




NovaEagle

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4/6/2004 9:06 AM




"A train with better hands....IMO."-Seth

But that is OK seth. I can't see them going after a feature back like K. Jones or your boy Thunder Jones. They know that Westbrook will be around, so I couldn't see them bringing in a guy who would demand a ton of carries. I really couldn't see them drafting a RB in the 1st or 2nd. I wonder how long Turner will be around, he seems like he has a nice combo of speed/power/brains.




EagleNY

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4/15/2004 1:34 PM




Like Perry, but probably just cause of the alma mater bias. Wouldn't consider it before round 3. A poor man's Duce at the next level, which isn't bad, but not with Buck and West already in the stable.













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